No it doesn't include the person called Hubbard if that's what you mean.does that include the woman that is the subject of this thread?
Of course Hubbard is going to want to compete against (or rather destroy) the competition regardless.
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Of course Hubbard is going to want to compete against (or rather destroy) the competition regardless.
Again, @D.P. , like other posters has over-simplified the situation. As proven, at the national level, male and female players get paid the same.
At the private level they are not paid the same for the very valid reason people have pointed out.
What @D.P. has either deliberately missed or is ignorant to is that at the private level not all male players are paid the same thus making @D.P. 's point invalid.
And I'm sure if someone did enough digging, there will be female players paid more than some male players.
She met the requirements laid down by Olympic rules, why can't you accept that?
Should rules be followed or not?
Not when there are separated male/female games for a reason which is being ignored (bone density, muscle mass, strength, etc) transgender women have a inherent advantage over biological women regardless of which way anyone decides to argue it.
Its basic biology.
Stupid rules deserve to be scrutinized.
it will be full clown world when the next thing the left go for is age.. and normalisation of being a peeeedo
Morals.
Not stupid ones. I can point to several times in history of rules resulting in horrendous actions, and in time this will probably be looked at unfavourably. The rules don't make it right.
Even men on the same teams are not paid the same.
Caporegime
Simple, ban gender centric games and just find out who the best human is.
The amount of assumptions and ignorance of this statement is staggering.
Do you really think that the IOC rules and guidelines on transgender athletes are that simple?
Soldato
Hubbard is in with a chance of winning but she was 6th in her last competition. Not sure why you think she is going to turn up and beat the others by a big margin.
Caporegime
Yeah we saw this play out when Cartman entered the special olympics.
Don't have a clue what the rules are, Sankari's post gave a good reason.
You can't honestly think its fair for Hubbard or any other trans female to compete against women, there are massive differences in body structure regardless of testosterone levels.
The interesting thing in Sankari's post though is the Williams sister comparison. What he is saying is that, even 'aside' from the physical differences between men and women, or maybe even 'because of' the differences, they play two totally different games. It is more similar to how boxing classes are divided up. They just play differently, leveraging their strengths.
Maybe re-educate yourself.
Do you mean 'Fair'?
If so, Yes, she is recognised as a women regardless of you antiquated and bigoted views.
She meets the rules/guidelines laid down by the IOC and other Athletic bodies, which puts you in the wrong.
EN-IOC-Consensus-Meeting-on-Sex-Reassignment-and-Hyperandrogenism.pdf (olympics.com)
Soldato
Now tell everyone why Hubbard came sixth in that competition - because he was in recovery from a serious arm injury sustained in the Commonwealth games the year before.
Thats why no discussion can be had as anyone who disagrees is called a bigot for not conforming to ludicrous ideas.