When are you going fully electric?

[Journey]

Its probably about time we started an actual BEV owners thread to be honest, given how popular they are now, after all this has become a total "anything to do with any electric car at all type thread" and it is hard to sort the decent information out from the noise. However I do see the original question as still valid, but the answers are no longer really relatable to the question for the most part.

 

[Simon]

Its probably about time we started an actual BEV owners thread to be honest, given how popular they are now, after all this has become a total "anything to do with any electric car at all type thread" and it is hard to sort the decent information out from the noise. However I do see the original question as still valid, but the answers are no longer really relatable to the question for the most part.

You’re right. We have been on a journey here

just remember never say anything against a Tesla on the internet

 

[chanjy]

It's ok, it's a good thing that there is debate. If you want genuinely useful information about your particular BEV there's other more specialised forums available too

 

[Jonnycoupe]

It’s like the EV owners clubs on Facebook.
We don’t have “car owner clubs” so now passed earlier adopter phase it’s all tedious waffle.

Most the EV discussion seems to be around that simple m/kWh metric which is just dull.

 

[lordrobs]

Most the EV discussion seems to be around that simple m/kWh metric which is just dull.

This is my (admittedly limited) experience of EV discussion with owners in real life as well. Well, that or 0-62 in #.# seconds ZZzzzz

I did enjoy a particular monologue about how little a Model S was costing in electricity. The person commuted 10 miles a day, barely went anywhere other than work and, using their figures, the depreciation alone in the first year of their ownership equated to a mere £8 per mile

Don't get me wrong, I'm pro EV but for me that doesn't come with a pre requisite to be anti ICE which seems to often be the case. For me, there simply doesn't need to be a justification but if you are going to try and justify the decision to buy a £40k+ car pick something more interesting than fuel costs

Obviously a different case for company car drivers as the BIK savings are pretty significant and would be a huge part of the decision making process.

 

[bimbleuk]

I recently "designed" a few EVs as my sis was asking about getting one later this year. The process was painful for a current Tesla owner. So many pointless and confusing options that contradict and overlap for no apparent reason. I can see now why the VAG group for example has ~30K parts suppliers! Must be a logistical nightmare, slow to implement changes and more importantly produce profitable vehicles at reasonable prices.

Johnny (Late Break Show) also had a little rant about the Enyaq iV 80 review with 15 option packs to navigate.

Anyway I picked a few basic options spec on each car but specified a pack over 60Kwh which was a requirement. Prices ranged from £42K to 48K. No premium or performance models just something in the middle.

Polestar 2, Enyaq iV 80, Mach E, Inoniq 45 were the initial choice as the Model Y still isn't listed yet. However looking at other markets it's not going to be cheap!

Tesla do appear to be battery constrained more than anything (like others) so are selling the most profitable versions in each region. Watch the most recent Tesla Daily YT vid with a few suggestions on reasons why they have been changing strategy.

 

[chanjy]

I recently "designed" a few EVs as my sis was asking about getting one later this year. The process was painful for a current Tesla owner. So many pointless and confusing options that contradict and overlap for no apparent reason. I can see now why the VAG group for example has ~30K parts suppliers! Must be a logistical nightmare, slow to implement changes and more importantly produce profitable vehicles at reasonable prices.

Johnny (Late Break Show) also had a little rant about the Enyaq iV 80 review with 15 option packs to navigate.

Anyway I picked a few basic options spec on each car but specified a pack over 60Kwh which was a requirement. Prices ranged from £42K to 48K. No premium or performance models just something in the middle.

Polestar 2, Enyaq iV 80, Mach E, Inoniq 45 were the initial choice as the Model Y still isn't listed yet. However looking at other markets it's not going to be cheap!

Tesla do appear to be battery constrained more than anything (like others) so are selling the most profitable versions in each region. Watch the most recent Tesla Daily YT vid with a few suggestions on reasons why they have been changing strategy.

Should try speccing a Porsche if you want to be confused by options

 

[jpaul]

Johnny (Late Break Show) also had a little rant about the Enyaq iV 80 review with 15 option packs to navigate.

... and the one you really want, a CSL option is not there (ie. engineering explained review)

the proliferation of vegan leather (whats its warranty) is interesting ... and, when the car has to be re-upholstered 8 years down the line (uv breakdown etc) will it still be eco friendly; although, alcantara is artficial no?, and has stood the test of time.

 

[Em3bbs]

I've said it before, but the worst thing for me about owning an EV, is other EV owners on their high horses all the time.

It’s like the EV owners clubs on Facebook.
We don’t have “car owner clubs” so now passed earlier adopter phase it’s all tedious waffle.

Most the EV discussion seems to be around that simple m/kWh metric which is just dull.

I find most of the discussions on the EV Facebook owners groups are by people who are constantly trying to justify EV ownership with a weird obsession where they post about ICE cars. Be it a car fire, an ICE car in a charging bay or some race they had with an ICE car. It's really off-putting as a normal EV owner, they are as bad as vegans.

 

[lordrobs]

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-57777588

Mr Clifton said it was an attempt to show if electric cars were viable for "real-world long distance use".

To save energy on the journey south, the air con was kept off, the windows closed and the radio was not used, and the team travelled through the night to avoid any traffic congestion.

If they wanted to prove to Joe Average like myself the real world viability then do it at 80mph with the climate set to 20'C and all the electronics running. Then compare the journey time and fuel cost with an equivalent ICE car. I'm sure most people like myself would be pleasantly surprised. But quoting an irrelevant economy figure for what sounds like a pretty awful way to do a long journey has the opposite effect!

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Not sure what the point of that was? I assume they did it on a single charge which is why it’s an achievement?

You could have done that in about around half that time if driven like a normal person in an EV.

 

[[TW]Fox]

Not sure what the point of that was? I assume they did it on a single charge which is why it’s an achievement?

Apparently not:

The car was charged at public service stations along the route

Have to say, I'm with lordrobs on this.

 

[Journey]

Not sure what the point of that was?

For some reason they wanted to show how little time you could spend charging if you completed a totally stupid unrealistic journey, so in total they only spent 44 mins at chargers. Seems like a totally pointless waste of time tbh, but hey it was a marketing exercise from Ford about the Mach-E, I guess Ford are trying to make themselves look relevant in the BEV market.

 

[Psycho Ned]

I presume they never checked youtube and realised Bjorn has been doing the 1000km challenge in like nearly every EV known to man for years?! He actually drives them normally as well not trying to hypermile!

What did this prove? You can make a long journey in an electric car by charging?! Thanks I didn't know that

 

[mrgubby]

For some reason they wanted to show how little time you could spend charging if you completed a totally stupid unrealistic journey, so in total they only spent 44 mins at chargers. Seems like a totally pointless waste of time tbh, but hey it was a marketing exercise from Ford about the Mach-E, I guess Ford are trying to make themselves look relevant in the BEV market.

44 minutes charging out of a 27 hours journey ?


It's 14 hours by car (+ breaks) , did they spend the extra time pushing the car to save energy ?

 

[Journey]

44 minutes charging out of a 27 hours journey ?


It's 14 hours by car (+ breaks) , did they spend the extra time pushing the car to save energy ?

Apparently they just wanted to use as little energy as possible regardless of how long it took, and minimise the charging time also. Again no idea why, there are many other BEV's that could have done it in a much faster time with less less energy used.

 

[Jonnycoupe]

Obvious to me.

Column inches for Ford by lending this loon a car and getting people aware of the Mach-e

 

[mrgubby]

Apparently they just wanted to use as little energy as possible regardless of how long it took, and minimise the charging time also. Again no idea why, there are many other BEV's that could have done it in a much faster time with less less energy used.

It's a good advert for energy efficiency but terrible for real world EV use

 

[lordrobs]

It's 14 hours by car (+ breaks) , did they spend the extra time pushing the car to save energy ?

They had to sit in ice baths for the rest of the time to offset the effects of the heatstroke caused by refusing to open a window or turn the AC on.

 

[b0rn2sk8]

Yup and the irony is that if they did the same thing in a number of other EVs, they would have used less energy. Given that’s the case how can this be something worthy of a ‘record’.

As others have said this is just a publicity stunt for Ford.