Poll: British Grand Prix 2021, Silverstone - Race 10/23
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Damon Hill, Karun and Martin Brundle said he should have not got a penalty.
I don't know what Webber and Coulthard said, but Button was more on the fence. Although perhaps leaning against Hamilton.
I would bet good money Max would get very little sympathy on the grid.
Soldato
7 from me. Barely any actual racing, but Lewis' pace at the end to catch Charles made it a bit more tense, and least there's something to argue about for the next couple of weeks.
Caporegime
Shock horror as a former team mate/ rival and two previous red bull drivers side with Max.
But he did get a penalty and still won with an excellent stint on the hards helped by his team mate moving out the way when he was clearly faster.
https://twitter.com/fil3638/status/1416824667722162177?s=24
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Caporegime
Not sure what that link has to do with anything, I don't have a problem with him celebrating in front of the British fans.
Soldato
Pretty much sums up my point of view on the subject. I'd like to say I hope he learns something from this... but this is Max were talking about here... of course he wont, because he's never in the wrong.
There is something inherently unlikeable about the Redbull team, its senior staff, some of its drivers, just something about it just has never sat right with me. I reckon it stems from the top, Marko seems to nurture a toxic atmosphere in that team, I've always had a dislike for its young driver programme, its a meat grinder for young talent. It feels like quite a few promising careers have died there as the drivers just dont seem to get the support and help they need to blossom, just seems overall toxic. Obviously thats just from the outside looking in, I may be entirely wrong.
The comeback drive from Lewis did make it much more entertaining. There was a point that I didnt think it was gonna be possible. But Lewis pulls that pace out when it counted and proved me very wrong. Strong drive and an outstanding home win.
Soldato
Then don't look at the comments on the YT highlights video. Record levels of hate for Lewis, but also the fans at the circuit. Some of the smooth-brains commenting there seem to think the sound of the fans shocked 'Oooh's, and the clapping of the fans behind the wire fencing as Max got out of the car, were in fact them cheering that Max was out/hurt/attempted murdered.
Caporegime
Plenty of videos on Twitter of people cheering when he spins off and even louder roars when he hits the tyres
Guess the people raising their arms when they cheered could be a Team America style help signal to the Marshalls.
On a side note Twitter is something else isn’t it… I don’t know how anyone can use it, it seems a like an opinion/counter opinion/shouty cesspit.
Soldato
Would be happy to see a source.Plenty of videos on Twitter of people cheering when he spins off and even louder roars when he hits the tyres
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Well, it delivered more than I was expecting but I've voted a 6 overall as outside of the HAM/VES drama at the start very little happened elsewhere in the field till the chase down at the end. I was hoping for a podium for Lando and he did look racey at the start, pinching a place from Bottas immediately.
That looked like a big hit for Max. He was quite delicate when being helped out of the car, glad to hear he's OK & the fight for the championship is still on. I can't help but feel he engineered that situation though. His jerk just before the corner to give Lewis the inside line then the onboard replays were damning for me, you can see Lewis does not open his steering angle while Max closes, opens and then tightens on Lewis when the collision takes place. A situation where neither driver wanted to concede and contact was probably inevitable between these two at some point. I had it as a racing incident personally and I fear that giving a penalty sends the wrong message for racing, but I also felt that George was harshly punished, so what do I know!
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The way both TP's conducted themselves running to contact the Race Director were quite embarrassing. I'm normally a fan of Christian but I'd had enough of him and comments such as 'you don't overtake there' after the race.
That looked like a big hit for Max. He was quite delicate when being helped out of the car, glad to hear he's OK & the fight for the championship is still on. I can't help but feel he engineered that situation though. His jerk just before the corner to give Lewis the inside line then the onboard replays were damning for me, you can see Lewis does not open his steering angle while Max closes, opens and then tightens on Lewis when the collision takes place. A situation where neither driver wanted to concede and contact was probably inevitable between these two at some point. I had it as a racing incident personally and I fear that giving a penalty sends the wrong message for racing, but I also felt that George was harshly punished, so what do I know!
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The way both TP's conducted themselves running to contact the Race Director were quite embarrassing. I'm normally a fan of Christian but I'd had enough of him and comments such as 'you don't overtake there' after the race.
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Sure, in the same way that Lewis could have died today.
Masterclass by Lewis today. Top job.
This was right at the scene:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CRemyx7ofl8/?utm_medium=copy_link
I will say however I’ve seen first hand how much they crowds used to cheer when Vettel went off etc in the past at Silverstone..
Soldato
Exactly my point. One guy threw his arm in the air to celebrate Lewis trying the move, then as Max crashed the crowd went silent and you could hear the concern. No one there was cheering a driver hitting a tyre barrier at 150+MPH.
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10 from me. Love a bit of on track drama.
Soldato
Exact same with Le Clerc as with Verstappen except Lewis had a better line with Le Clerc even so Le Clerc went off the track. That could have been heated at the end but both drivers were congratulating each other.
Just my opinon but Max was in the wrong all upto that corner he was being aggressive if you watch the reply and Lewis just went for it with neither driving wanting to give up. Max hit Lewis and he had no chance.
This completely and totally.
The telling replay if you watch back is the one in Max's car, watch his steering wheel, he goes to steer right, see's Lewis in his wing mirrors and pulls out then few seconds later he rams the steering wheel right (bit like in chase movies when someone wants to ram another car off the road).
Question is if he saw Lewis in his wing mirror on the first look, why didnt he look again in his wing mirror before turning in ? 'he thought Lewis would have pulled out' but he didnt check his mirror. I`m glad Max is okay but no way was that totally Lewis fault.
Commissario
This was the thing for me, he steered away and then back in again. I don’t see how anyone can blame Lewis for this. Max knew he was there and steered across him.
Anyway, 9/10 for me. If Lando had made it to the podium, it would have been a 10.
Perfectly put.