Totally agree. I hated Vettel when he was at RB but have grown to appreciate him more these days.
Poll: British Grand Prix 2021, Silverstone - Race 10/23
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I would cheer too. Why aren't we allowed to cheer at the misfortune of a complete bell? Cheering is not wishing injury.
There was also clapping as he got out of the car safely.
How'd you think the crowd will react in Zandvoort later this year if Hamilton bins it? With quiet murmurs of concern?
Soldato
I watched the footage on twitter and Instagram and its rubbish what some people are saying. As they both came round the corner the crowd were cheering and when Max crashed it happened that quickly they were still cheering (this is what people have been saying is distasteful) but if he was doing 200mph round that corner you dont have time to stop cheering in like 2 seconds as you dont fully realise what happened then as soon as he hit the barrier they stopped cheering and the reality of what happened set in. (and started taking photos and video which I thought was worse).
They were definitely not cheering as he crashed just that it looked like Lewis was overtaking him which is where the cheers were for. Its been blown out of all proportion as usual and its bordering on fake news. Then they all cheered and clapped as he got out.
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Max's radio after the crash sounded scary.
https://streamable.com/lbdsxf
I'd say it was a racing incident, 10 second penalty was ridiculous.
https://streamable.com/lbdsxf
I'd say it was a racing incident, 10 second penalty was ridiculous.
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Edit, ignore. I thought I was on a more recent page.
Soldato
For me the Leclerc move is what Hamilton was probably trying to do the first time around. He was on the kerb and left room for both cars. With Verstappen he got nowhere near the kerb and just carried too much speed in, understeering into Verstappen.
For me it had an air of desperation befitting something Vettel in the Ferrari might have done when he was fighting Hamilton and making mistakes, backed up by Hamilton's comments on 5 Live after the race when he said "I had to get in his face". I really hope Hamilton hadn't heard Verstappen was in hospital when he said that.
It certainly wasn't the cunning, calculating and patient Hamilton we've seen over the last few years.
Given the immense speed involved and thus dangerous nature personally I think he was extremely lucky to get a 10 second penalty. I thought he'd get a drive through.
Verstappen maybe should have been a bit more patient given the standings, but that doesn't mean you can assume he should back out of it.
For me it had an air of desperation befitting something Vettel in the Ferrari might have done when he was fighting Hamilton and making mistakes, backed up by Hamilton's comments on 5 Live after the race when he said "I had to get in his face". I really hope Hamilton hadn't heard Verstappen was in hospital when he said that.
It certainly wasn't the cunning, calculating and patient Hamilton we've seen over the last few years.
Given the immense speed involved and thus dangerous nature personally I think he was extremely lucky to get a 10 second penalty. I thought he'd get a drive through.
Verstappen maybe should have been a bit more patient given the standings, but that doesn't mean you can assume he should back out of it.
Soldato
I just cannot believe the redbull camp and Max are being so moany about this blimey they touched wheels and Max span off, happens all the time in motorsport as they well know.
Soldato
(I was typing before it got changed but still can apply to your other post) To be fair there was more space given before the turn in so Hamilton could get a better line (leclerc wasn't trying to push hamilton towards the wall). You can also say the track had rubbered in, there was less fuel in the cars and arguably the tyres were in a better state to give better grip, all of which combined would easily allow a car/driver to take a tighter turn.
Personally I still think it's a racing incident as I said earlier and like I said earlier Verstappen wasn't exactly 'behaving' when he was defending up to that point either. If anything after seeing some of the replays etc I'd say that Verstappens 'robust' defending style actually contributed to the incident (remember how everyone used to complain, including other drivers, about the defensive moves of verstappen when he started f1, he hasn't changed that much in all honesty)
(this is not aimed at anyone in particular)
What I have noticed of late is that the 'fans' watching formula 1 and posting on f1 sites/twitter/reddit these days have become so 'toxic' of late, especially towards Hamilton and while I'm no fan of him (or verstappen in fact for similar reasons) I wouldn't ever go around berating him in the way some people are on f1 sites/twitter etc. It's got so bad on some sites (racefans for example) that I can't even be bothered to go there anymore.
edit: This time it really doesn't help with redbull being, well redbull.... they do like to throw their dummy out of the pram when things aren't going their way (the constant threat to quit etc) after all and while it wasn't exactly great for them, especially with Perez performing poorly again, they're arguably trying to incite issues with some of their comments during/after the race and posts from their official twitter accounts.
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Garbage. Utter garbage. Have you never been to any sporting event, ever?
Soldato
It's quite obvious why people are toxic with Hamilton.
Replace Hamilton with bottas and people wouldn't be hating on bottas.
F1 is becoming way worse than football in the social media side of things.
Saying that. I've been to tons of races and not one hooligan or anti discrimination went on. Everyone has been super friendly on track days.
I've even spent time in camping too and I can tell you that loads are all friendly. Everyone is equal no matter background, appearance etc.
Which leads me to believe many here and in all social platforms are armchair haterz that don't really respect and follow the sport
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Think this post needs to be on each page at this point..
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I've noticed this, it's really putting me off.
I've never seen it like this before.
Soldato
Max needs to learn that playing the aggressive "Senna" card everytime won't always make the other driver blink and back out, especially while Max has the championship to lose. How Lewis got a penalty from Max's actions is rather bizarre. Max went to turn it, saw Lewis and straightened his wheel, then turned in again instead of backing out when he was on the outside of the corner with plenty of track to his left.
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On the replays I have seen, Hamilton is attempting to take a line towards the apex and it isnt until Max steers into him and there is contact that he runs wide with understeer. The videos of Max's steering wheel inputs are damning. And let's not forget Max tried to squeeze Lewis into the wall just before the corner........
I’m not sure which race you were watching TBH