2005 Italian Grand Prix

Flibster · 31 Aug 2005 at 09:58

Flibster · 31 Aug 2005 at 09:58

2004 Italian Grand Prix Results

Flibster · 31 Aug 2005 at 09:59

Current Standings

2005 Drivers Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Driver			Nationality	Team			Points [/b]
1	Fernando Alonso		Spanish		Renault			95 
2	Kimi Räikkönen		Finnish		McLaren-Mercedes	71 
3	Michael Schumacher	German		Ferrari			55 
4	Juan Pablo Montoya	Colombian	McLaren-Mercedes	40 
5	Jarno Trulli		Italian		Toyota			39 
6	Giancarlo Fisichella	Italian		Renault			35 
7	Ralf Schumacher		German		Toyota			32 
8	Rubens Barrichello	Brazilian	Ferrari			31 
9	Nick Heidfeld		German		Williams-BMW		28 
10	Mark Webber		Australian	Williams-BMW		24 
11	Jenson Button		British		BAR-Honda		23 
12	David Coulthard		British		Red Bull Racing		21 
13	Felipe Massa		Brazilian	Sauber-Petronas		8 
=16	Tiago Monteiro		Portuguese	Jordan-Toyota		6 
=16	Alexander Wurz		Austrian	McLaren-Mercedes	6 
=16	Jacques Villeneuve	Canadian	Sauber-Petronas		6 
=18	Narain Karthikeyan	Indian		Jordan-Toyota		5 
=18	Christian Klien		Austrian	Red Bull Racing		5 
=20	Christijan Albers	Dutch		Minardi-Cosworth	4 
=20	Pedro de la Rosa	Spanish		McLaren-Mercedes	4 
21	Patrick Friesacher	Austrian	Minardi-Cosworth	3 
=23	Takuma Sato		Japanese	BAR-Honda		1 
=23	Vitantonio Liuzzi	Italian		Red Bull Racing		1

2005 Constructors Championship.

Code:

[b]Pos	Constructor 		Points[/b]
1	 Renault		130
2	 McLaren-Mercedes	121
3	 Ferrari		86
4	 Toyota			71
5	 Williams-BMW		52
6	 Red Bull Racing	27
7	 BAR-Honda		24
8	 Sauber-Petronas	14
9	 Jordan-Toyota		11
10	 Minardi-Cosworth	7

Flibster · 31 Aug 2005 at 10:00

A now the news...

A bizarre statement from FOM

There was a strange press release this evening sent out by Formula One Management and signed by Bernie Ecclestone. The message, however, was not one that seemed to ring true with Ecclestone's views in recent months.

"It has been reported that approaches have been made in relationship to the sale by the controlling shareholders of SLEC," it said. "Although the approach has been made, the answer has been that the company shares are not for sale. The shareholders are long term investors and have the interest and stability of Formula One foremost in their mind."

One can make of this what you will but given Ecclestone's distaste for publicity in such matters and the odd wording of the statement, one must conclude that there has been some pushing and shoving in the background in recent days.

Flibster · 31 Aug 2005 at 10:01

Michelin Better - Massa

Pierre Dupasquier; Hisao Suganuma? Uniquely, there might actually be a man even better placed to muse F1's 'Michelin v. Bridgestone' tyre war ahead of the grand prix at Monza.

Felipe Massa, to the chagrin of Michelin's Dupasquier, tried both brands on the high speed Italian circuit last week.

First, he got a sneak preview of his 2006 Ferrari-Bridgestone package when he piloted a scarlet car. Later, the 24-year-old Brazilian reverted back to his regular Sauber-Michelin combo.

Massa said Bridgestone can keep up with the leading Michelin rubber in quick bends like the Parabolica or Lesmos.

"(But) under braking," he reported, "or in the slow curves and when accelerating - if you need traction - Michelin is better."

If that's bad news for the Japanese camp for the weekend, it got even worse on one day at the test when Ferrari's Luca Badoer experienced a high speed left-rear tyre failure. The specification he was testing, it is reported, was set to be introduced at the Italian grand prix.

Instead, technical manager Hisao Suganuma says the marque will again use the dismally slow Turkey-spec tyre.

"(It) seemed to work well in the test," the Japanese shrugged.

Flibster · 31 Aug 2005 at 10:04

Now...

If a passing Underboss or Donnypoos could kindly get someone to kick these 2 threads into the archive with the rest if they would be so kind.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17447465 - Hungarian GP

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17456558 - Turkish GP

Also...

Right - as A1GP starts soon...does anyone want me to do an introduction to that and possibly try something like this for it as well?

Simon/~Flibster

divine` · 31 Aug 2005 at 10:15

[n00b]Whats A1GP?[/n00b]

Flibster · 31 Aug 2005 at 10:18

divine_madness said:
[n00b]Whats A1GP?[/n00b]

Try looking at www.a1gp.com

Single make race series - runs in winter - looks pretty good...

Simon/~Flibster

divine` · 31 Aug 2005 at 11:06

Looks good, and only £29 for a prebooked ticket to go to Brands Hatch Later this month.

rpstewart · 31 Aug 2005 at 11:15

And some more news

Monza Ticket Sales Down

Italian Grand Prix organisers fear Ferrari's poor form is having an impact on ticket sales for Sunday's Formula One race at Monza.

"Ticket sales are down on previous years and this is troubling us," Milan Automobile Club president Ludovico Grandi told reporters on Tuesday.

"On the one hand costs are going up and on the other the returns are going down while the competition is growing from emerging countries, as Turkey, China and Bahrain have demonstrated."

Enrico Ferrari, director of the Monza circuit, said ticket sales were down 15 percent on last year despite prices being reduced, although the organisers hoped for an improvement leading up to the weekend.

Some 117,000 spectators turned up for last year's race, won by Ferrari's Rubens Barrichello after the Italian team had already won the Constructors' Championship and Michael Schumacher the drivers' crown.

The circuit's record attendance was 160,532 in 2000, the year that Schumacher became the first Ferrari driver in 21 years to win the Championship.

Crowd figures for last week's testing at Monza were just over 30,000, half last year's levels.

Organisers said Ferrari's fortunes and the fact that this year's race is a week earlier than previously were both factors.

Richard T · 31 Aug 2005 at 11:46

Flibster said:
Also...

Right - as A1GP starts soon...does anyone want me to do an introduction to that and possibly try something like this for it as well?

Simon/~Flibster

yesh Simon

Richard T · 31 Aug 2005 at 11:51

am looking forward to this race. I want to see Ferrari suffer again

Lets hope they (bridgestone) do take those carp Turkey tyres

Flibster · 31 Aug 2005 at 12:00

ashtray_head said:
am looking forward to this race. I want to see Ferrari suffer again

Lets hope they (bridgestone) do take those carp Turkey tyres

After a severe failure of one of tyres *for no apparent reason* they were planning to use at Monza - they are having to use the same tyres that were used in Turkey...

Shame...

Simon/~Flibster

Richard T · 31 Aug 2005 at 12:02

do you reckon Jense will do well?
I hope so

wonder_lander · 31 Aug 2005 at 12:08

Yes please to the A1GP stuff.....are they going to televise the series?

Emlyn_Dewar · 31 Aug 2005 at 13:06

Montoya for the win!

Renault's were strong in testing though so who knows, plus it's Spa next so the engines will surely be a concern during this race... (Bloody engine rules)
I'm hoping Minardi can do well, like I always do, the new Jordan is getting taken here and is much better than the old rickle of **** they have been racing... Hopefully that Minardi's good straight line speed and the low downforce nature of the track could help them stay ahead of the yellows.

Byron5184 · 31 Aug 2005 at 13:09

Coverage for A1GP as well would be awesome Flibster

What channel is it gonna start airing on cause i have no idea.

Flibster · 31 Aug 2005 at 13:14

ashtray_head said:
yesh Simon

Will do then...well..will try...

We don't know who all the teams are yet. :eek:

Byron5184 said:
Coverage for A1GP as well would be awesome Flibster

What channel is it gonna start airing on cause i have no idea.

Believe it's going to be on Sky Sports...Other than that - no idea...

Simon/~Flibster

Coco · 31 Aug 2005 at 13:18

I like looking at the next races & trying to decide where Sato is going to go off or go pop. Think turn 2 looks good, good luck to whoever's next to him!

I think Kimi's going to continue his dominance. He's absolutely on fire, full credit to him.

gsf600y · 31 Aug 2005 at 14:32

What sort of speed difference compared to F1 cars will the A1 GP cars have?
Looking at the A1GP calendar, it looks like we'll have to wait til Sepang in November to see 2005 laptime differences.