Poll: War - yes/no?
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very true, but according to me dad who has worked over there, the Iraqi people are relatively free compared to some of the other arab states who we are friendly with.
I'm not defending sadam's control over Iraq but I think that that is a valid point.
However, I still maintain that it should be on a UN ruling because otherwise it'll be another 'league of nations' which collapsed due to lack of co-operation
Soldato
sadly some people think war = death therefor no war means life
I say to those people "shut up you dumb ********"
Saddam has killed more people in his own country than we will in this poxy war.
Saddam will die before liberating his people and his successor will be of the same mindset as he is. It is very unlikely the system will change in Iraq if the world doesn't intervene.
Basically no action will result in more death.
The Iraqis are dammed if we do and dammed more if we don't.
I say to those people "shut up you dumb ********"
Saddam has killed more people in his own country than we will in this poxy war.
Saddam will die before liberating his people and his successor will be of the same mindset as he is. It is very unlikely the system will change in Iraq if the world doesn't intervene.
Basically no action will result in more death.
The Iraqis are dammed if we do and dammed more if we don't.
Soldato
so they ar no longer using the time honored method if
eany meany miney mo???
Soldato
ok my mate , you be ignorant , its your decision.Nothing to do with the fact UN weapons inspectors say 10's of thousands of litres of anthtrax are unacounted for ? but no...anthrax won't hurt anyone , it makes the plants grow and the birds sing
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If the anthrax is stored in a secret location by saddam then an us/uk missle hits it and releases it in to the air - what then?
I meen it would sure stop him from releasing it
Soldato
Originally posted by Robert
ok my mate , you be ignorant , its your decision.Nothing to do with the fact UN weapons inspectors say 10's of thousands of litres of anthtrax are unacounted for ? but no...anthrax won't hurt anyone , it makes the plants grow and the birds sing
off course no you are trying to make me angry
can anyone really tell me that Iraq actually has any intent to attack the UK and other countries with weapons of mass destruction?
I believ the impact of war under current circumstances would undermine the war against terrorism and breed future suicide bombers.
Soldato
Heres a point I havent seen being raised much
Put yourself in Saddam's sand covered shoes, you have the US and the UK falling over themselves to invade you, maybe for the wrong reasons (we'll never know) and no matter what you do will change that.
If he destorys his weapons, then the US will invade anyway and he will have less to defend himself with.
If he doesnt destroy his weapons, the US will invade and he will have more to fight back with.
So why would he bother disarming if no matter what he will be invaded?
I voted no but if we go in Ill be behind troops 100% as my very good mate is over there in the Paras
Put yourself in Saddam's sand covered shoes, you have the US and the UK falling over themselves to invade you, maybe for the wrong reasons (we'll never know) and no matter what you do will change that.
If he destorys his weapons, then the US will invade anyway and he will have less to defend himself with.
If he doesnt destroy his weapons, the US will invade and he will have more to fight back with.
So why would he bother disarming if no matter what he will be invaded?
I voted no but if we go in Ill be behind troops 100% as my very good mate is over there in the Paras
Soldato
but what if their being spread about by al-qaeda or issued to troops for them to use ? which is apparently what pentagon sources are being told...
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Originally posted by r1cko
rotfl..
if you dont care about the iraqi people why do you care if any of them die?
is that the extent of your 'coherent' argument against war?
erm i thought we were sending our boys in, infact if it goes belly up we could be going in not only our boys.
Soldato
right,
you believe everything they say
Then those dossiers began to fall apart.
The British dossier had contained an alarming claim that Iraq had tried to acquire uranium from an African country despite not having a civilian nuclear programme.
The UN inspectors managed to establish that the claim was based on forged documents. Collapse of case.
Another suspicious consignment of thousands of aluminium tubes, thought to be for uranium enrichment, was accepted by the inspectors to be for the manufacture of rockets.
Then another document produced by the British Government about the evils of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein turned out to have been based on a student's thesis.
The thesis was not necessarily wrong, but it had not been credited. Collapse of document.
Most damaging of all, the inspectors made progress and did not find any of the weapons of mass destruction the dossiers had said were there.
Even a presentation by the US Secretary of State Colin Powell to the Security Council proved unconvincing. He produced photographs and even audio tapes, but failed to make a decisive impact.
Nor did he convince everyone that there were links between Iraq and al-Qaeda.
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If indeed it has been given to the terrorist network then it will be used in the next few weeks, and we're as good as dead.
As for the petagon sources are they the CIA per chance - you know the ones who gave exact locations of wepons, only the inspectors didn't find anything!
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The UN has time and again shown its incompetence and inability to provide a genuine platform for solving issues of international concern.
It is and ALWAYS has been a completely useless organisation since its inception at the end of WW2. It was of no use throughout the entire cold war that spanned decades, it was NATO and the Warsaw Pact that prevented the war turning hot.
The UN can NOT continue in it's current form. It is ludicrous that small dictarships have actual power to influence votes on such issues as Iraq, Israel or whatever just because by some coincidence they are on the general UN council at that time (it cycles periodically through all the UN member nations).
The argument that the UN should be obeyed because nothing exists that is better doesn't constitute a strong case in my book!
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I have no objection to taking out an evil dictator and his regime.
War will always be a part of the human race. It'll never go away no matter how hard we try or how peaceful we become. It's a necessary evil we have to live with.
War will always be a part of the human race. It'll never go away no matter how hard we try or how peaceful we become. It's a necessary evil we have to live with.
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