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Dennisthemenace said:
It was a defensive remark to an intended insult

With a little intelligence you would know that people who use their computer databases as part of a business cannot always encrypt it. It would require decrypting every time someone came through the door or phoned in an order. Protection is a well written program tested to distruction with a decent source code and password.

You may have no problem with having your computer burgled, those of us that use it for more than playing freecell would call it a very big deal.

Your claim to work for an anti virus softwarehouse is something i find very hard to swallow.

Please drop the high and mighty charade, it really is silly and only makes people look bad in "internet arguments". I never claimed to be a security expert, but I do now work for an AV company and am learning the trade whether you find that "hard to swallow" (yawn) or not.

You didn't say you were on a business network, or if you did I missed it so I was talking as if you were a home user. I heartily apologise for my miniscule intelligence and feeble-mindedness and hope some day you may find it in your heart to forgive me.

Re-arrange these words into a popular phrase: Head. Please. Arse. Your. Out. Get. Of. Your.

:)

EDIT - I'm writing an email to Eset UK now about this issue and will post the reply when I receive it...
 
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We use Sophos here at work and I have had experience with that, Norton, Kapersky, AVG and FProt.

I have to say as soon as I Installed the "trial" of NOD32 and rebooted it picked up all the items I was having issues with removing straight away.

What a fantastic piece of software it is and I am seriously considering paying for a subscription (something i've never done before for AV).

Thumbs up !

As for the privacy issue... unless you go to some very extreme lengths, nothing is totally secure.
 
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Anyone want to look at these packets being uploaded by NOD32 and see what they contain? At the moment we have someone flipping out about something in a license agreement, with no proof. If NOD32 were secretly uploading your homegrown goat pornography without your knowlege, I'm sure we'd have heard about it by now from a source with proof.
 
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Caged said:
Anyone want to look at these packets being uploaded by NOD32 and see what they contain? At the moment we have someone flipping out about something in a license agreement, with no proof. If NOD32 were secretly uploading your homegrown goat pornography without your knowlege, I'm sure we'd have heard about it by now from a source with proof.

Exactly, it is all just unecessary "big brother" panic... if any data abuse was ongoing the issue would be all over the media just as it has been with Norton and Zonealarm and their data collection/stealth techniques. Though I have to ask, how did you find out about my goat porn? :D
 
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BittersweetLife said:
Symantec Corp.Edition v9 Final > NOD32

Hence why they get away with charging £200+ for it and Corp. companys buy it by the shed load still.

Having said that NOD32 is still a superb AV and you cannot go wrong with either.

http://www.virusbtn.com/

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Norton is awful and I've used it quite a bit up to version 8 in a corporate environment.

I would doubt that version 9 would be the saviour either..
 
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It's not the same. Norton products are home user things, with control centres and huge buttons on the taskbar. Symantec ones are corporate products, with a little icon in the tray and a relatively low memory footprint.
 
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Caged said:
It's not the same. Norton products are home user things, with control centres and huge buttons on the taskbar. Symantec ones are corporate products, with a little icon in the tray and a relatively low memory footprint.

Like I said, I have experience using the corporate product and it is not good at all.
 
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Post on another forum about Norton corporate... http://www.techimo.com/forum/t160589.html

Hey guys!


I'm working on a client's computer that has Norton Corporate v9.0.0.338 installed with the latest definitions. Well, as part of my system tuneup I always run a virus scan with Avast and an online scanner as well. Avast picked up 2 different worms and 2 different trojans as well. I mean, I know the personal version of Norton is crap, but I thought (up until this point) the corporate version was good to go.


The owner was standing right beside me when Avast picked up the worms and you can imagine the look on his face. He even commented on how he scans his drive weekly with Norton and it's never once detected a virus.

Thoughts/comments?

Just some FYI to chew on...

Mike
 
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Caged said:
Anyone want to look at these packets being uploaded by NOD32 and see what they contain? At the moment we have someone flipping out about something in a license agreement, with no proof. If NOD32 were secretly uploading your homegrown goat pornography without your knowlege, I'm sure we'd have heard about it by now from a source with proof.

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Dennis - now read the section above
Licensor will only use this information and data to study the threat and will take reasonable steps to preserve the confidentiality of such information
so no need to blow your head off over it - it seems reasonable to me that they wish to preempt the spread of viruses
 
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Andre if you had evolved beyond the simian restraints of our ancestors like Dennis has, you would understand how deep the rabbit hole goes. Trust no-one.

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siloleth said:
Like I said, I have experience using the corporate product and it is not good at all.

Fancy going into a little bit more detail there?

I'm a big fan of the Corporate Editions of NAV/SAV.
Within a fortnight of me joining the company I currently work for I'd rolled NAV Corporate V7 out to a server and had every single Windows box under protection.
Over the years I've upgraded, first through the NAV naming and currently into SAV.
Last week I finished the roll-out of SAV 10.0.2 to our Antiviurs servers.

Our two UK sites, our site in Atlanta & Honk Kong are also covered by our one Antivirus system and in turn every single Windows box and our Exchnage system are protected by SAV 10.0.2
It's a totally no brainer system and all fully automated.
Daily our servers collect new definitions and then starting at midday our two satellite servers and then clients receive these updates.

In the five and a half years I've been at this company I can count the number of virus issues we've had on one hand.
In each case it has not been NAV/SAV at fault - we managed to miss a machine for roll-out and somebody used it to collect e-mail via Hotmail and downloaded an attachment directly.
Another was a visitor placed on the wrong network...however NAV/SAV Corporate has never let us down or allowed a virus through in 5.5 years.

To me that is a mark of an amazing product and worth every single penny we pay in maintenance so that we are always running the latest version of it.
 
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SiriusB said:
He was asking for proof that your goat porn was in the uploaded data. Not proof of whether the terms in the license agreement existed.

SiriusB

No porn, just medical records, prescription details, my financial records and diaries, contact details, hospital details, and a part time network connected to a few disabled people suffering from chronic brain diseases. All in databases, inside the database are macros. Once Nod32 discovers a macro it will upload the file to Eset, who as the EULA says, will pass on the files to others outside the Esnet empire. Esnet's NOD32 is not a program that can be called secure, and can never be installed on a computer containing private information.

Funny how you could only think of porn. :eek:
 
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stoofa said:
Fancy going into a little bit more detail there?

I'm a big fan of the Corporate Editions of NAV/SAV.
Within a fortnight of me joining the company I currently work for I'd rolled NAV Corporate V7 out to a server and had every single Windows box under protection.
Over the years I've upgraded, first through the NAV naming and currently into SAV.
Last week I finished the roll-out of SAV 10.0.2 to our Antiviurs servers.

Our two UK sites, our site in Atlanta & Honk Kong are also covered by our one Antivirus system and in turn every single Windows box and our Exchnage system are protected by SAV 10.0.2
It's a totally no brainer system and all fully automated.
Daily our servers collect new definitions and then starting at midday our two satellite servers and then clients receive these updates.

In the five and a half years I've been at this company I can count the number of virus issues we've had on one hand.
In each case it has not been NAV/SAV at fault - we managed to miss a machine for roll-out and somebody used it to collect e-mail via Hotmail and downloaded an attachment directly.
Another was a visitor placed on the wrong network...however NAV/SAV Corporate has never let us down or allowed a virus through in 5.5 years.

To me that is a mark of an amazing product and worth every single penny we pay in maintenance so that we are always running the latest version of it.

I think the management features of the Antivirus servers are very useful, however im referring to the client which I think is poor.

With my experience the Symantec/Norton (whichever umbrella you give it) clients are very poor at picking up Trojans even thought the .dat files have been up to date and should have picked them up.

Often I would turn to using such things as the Mcafee Online Scan tool - even that would pick up certain trojans that the Symantec/Norton client would not. ( I cannot remember exact names of these Trojans as this was for my last company and I left there a while back).

We can only speak from our experiences..

Also the client is quite heavy on recources whereas NOD32 appears not to be.
 
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Right, lets put this to bed once and for all....

NOD has a feature called "threatsense". This feature will indeed "phone home" if you let it . However, its intentions are far from sinister. Here is the blurb from the NOD helpfile...

The ThreatSense.Net Early Warning System has a single purpose - to improve the protection that we can offer you, our customer. The best way to ensure that we see new threats as soon as they appear is to "link" to as many of our customers as possible and use them as our Threat Scouts. There are two options: You can decide not to enable the ThreatSense.Net Early Warning System. You won't lose any functionality in the software, and you'll still get the best protection that we can offer. You can enable Early Warning System to submit anonymous information about new threats, and where the new threatening code is contained in a file, the whole file can be sent to Eset for detailed analysis. Studying these threats will help Eset update its threat detection capabilities. The ThreatSense.Net Early Warning System will collect information about your computer related to newly detected threats, which may include a sample or copy of the file in which the threat appeared, the path to that file, its filename, information about the date and time, the process by which the threat appeared on your computer and information about your computer's operating system. Some of this information may include personal information about the user of the computer, for instance usernames in the path etc. An example of the file information submitted is available here. While there is a chance that on occasion this may disclose some information about you or your computer to our threat lab at Eset, our intention is not to gather that information for any other purpose than to ensure that we can respond immediately to new threats. We're telling you this up-front, and you have several options so you can be sure that we take your privacy very seriously.

There is more besides, but you get the drift. I have NOD but I've chosen to switch off the much trumpeted "threatsense", not because I fear for my privacy but because I figured it might chew up more CPU cycles and bandwidth....

;)
 
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