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I need a new pair of ear phones. any body have any recommandations, a want ones that can take a lot of bass and treble and also ones that are pretty loud on my unlocked vol limited NW-A3000
 
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Jamie1984 said:
i find logitech a good brand for headphones, sennheisers much better?

Never used any logitech headphones, but Sennheiser are headphone specialists with years of experience and make some of the best headphones money can buy, so I'd have to think they'd be better. Not saying their whole range is necessarily all fantastic though of course.
 
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Says who?

I do a lot of reading on headfi and I think the definite consensus is that e2c's are entry level audiophile IEM's, and the sharps fall short of this.
 
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Bigsy said:
I do a lot of reading on headfi and I think the definite consensus is that e2c's are entry level audiophile IEM's, and the sharps fall short of this.
Ae you sure about this? I don't really recall either being commonly mentioned together with the word audiophile, not even entry level...

Shure have a larger fanbase, thats for sure, but of those who've heard both, it is not rare for some to prefer the MD-33 to the E2C. I won't say the MD-33 is definitely better, but I don't think it is really that one-sided either.

The few who replied on this thread seem to favor the MD-33:
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=73189&highlight=md-33+e2c

The MD-33 is quite popular for modding and the verdict here is that modded it sounds better than the E2C (but keep in mind it is only one person's opinion):
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=64271&highlight=md-33+e2c

This thread is highly informative with a good discussion. The poll points toward the E2C (though remember the larger fanbase bit), so I recommend that you go through the thread:
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102379&highlight=MD33

Neither really outclass the other... so read and pick one :)

(The Koss Plug on the other hand is almost universally disliked at HF)

It's a shame that the original poster doesn't like over the ear type though. I think everyone should try the KSC-75 :D
 
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To me it is the people that don't know any better (ie the non audiophile/md33 owners that simply haven't listened to e2c's and are never likly to spend anymore on phones) that tend to go for the md33's.

Check the first link you posted, 3rd reply: 'md33 all the waay. Kids at school love my earphones too much they order them from me for 60 bux.'

Is that really someone you can take seriously?

Also you completely didn't mention krammers mod for the e2c's but posted links to mod the md33's???

With a simply mod e2c's sound a lot better: http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=133131

Either way I don't care, I hate e2c's you can search this forum for a thread I made on how much I hate them......but still from reading around it is quite obvious they are considered better than the md33's. The poll proves it, I take your point on fanbase, but shures is bigger for a reason! Things like customer service, no quibble returns etc need to be factored in.
 
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Money and the real world also play a factor in this though.

For something as good/if not better (depending on most peoples views of the md's) for quite a bit cheaper, the extra money really isn't worth it.

They fit azza's price range, and what he wants is a lot of bass, which in MANY many reviews of the shures, they dont give. (One reason I didn't get them)
 
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@Bigsy: I pulled three fairly random thread from searching 10 minutes (with "E2C and MD-33 as keyword). I can't say I've paid much that much attention to either the Shure E2C or the Sharp.

I'd say the Shure made it's name amongst audiophile for it's product line above the E2C though. The E4C is all the rage right now, and prior that, the E3C and E5C were usually the ones praised. You certainly aren't the only person who's tried the E2C, and disliked them. Krammer also mentioned he wasn't big on the E2C at the beginning. Not sure if that changed after he performed the mod though.
The other thing is, Sharp hasn't historically been associated with audiophile grade products. Perhaps for a good reason, but the fact that the MD-33 is even talked on HF would suggest that they are doing -something- right there.. but perhaps only a small number of people have dared to try (over an established brand like Shure).

On a side note, I am kinda surprised to hear the E2C lacking bass, the E3C and E5C are certainly known for being bassier than the Etys E4R. Aren't the Sony EX-71 reknown for quantitative bass?
 
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TooNice said:
On a side note, I am kinda surprised to hear the E2C lacking bass, the E3C and E5C are certainly known for being bassier than the Etys E4R. Aren't the Sony EX-71 reknown for quantitative bass?

I wouldn't be surprised if those people complaining of lacking bass in the e2cs simply hadn't fitted them correctly, they rely very much on having a snug fit.
 
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