A political party with mainstream political views, but against ALL forms of religion!

Maniac618 · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:35

On this most appopriate day I thought I'd share my idea.

Someone somewhere or a group of people should start up an English political party completely opposed to all forms of religion, but with otherwise mainstream political policies and ideas.

Imagine a country, and even a world without religion to bring about terrorism, war and suffering.

A set of basic morals very similar in all reigions anyway, would be as far as it would go to keep a little morality and insight into right and wrong, but apart from that all traces of religion would be abolished.

It would bring people together.

Phalanx · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:37

you make it seem as if all forms of terrorism are influenced by religion :rolleyes:

Steeps · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:38

Maniac618 said:
It would bring people together.

religions already do this, and opposing religion is not going to make the situation any better.

William · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:40

I can imagine the party, it wouldn't get in.

Maniac618 · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:40

Phalanx said:
you make it seem as if all forms of terrorism are influenced by religion

Extremist muslims wouldn't be blowing themselves up if it wasn't for Islam existing in the first place.

Obviously, religion isn't the cause of every act of terrorism, but at the moment it's about 90% of the cause of most attacks (israel, palestine, iraq, afghanistan, america and ireland in the past)

jezsoup · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:41

William said:
I can imagine the party, it wouldn't get in.

To right, sounds a stupid idea when you really think about it!

It will be like the National front, they NF, have a few mentalist hardcore followers while the rest of us scoff and laugh at them.

William · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:41

Extremist muslims wouldn't be blowing themselves up if it wasn't for Islam existing in the first place.

Obviously, religion isn't the cause of every act of terrorism, but at the moment it's about 90% of the cause of most attacks (israel, palestine, iraq, afghanistan, america and ireland in the past)

Do you not think the use of religion is a veneer for an underlying problem and if removed it would simply be replaced by somthing else?

Maniac618 · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:42

Steeps said:
religions already do this, and opposing religion is not going to make the situation any better.

no they don't they only bring people of the SAME faith together. They have finer points that disagree with other religions and cause conflict and friction that way, whether it is said publically or not.

Steeps · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:42

why not look on the other side of the plate, we complain about out of control youths on the street vandalising property and causing annoyance to residents. what religion should we blame for that? :rolleyes:

[DOD]Asprilla · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:42

Religion isn't a cause of terrorism or war, it's just an excuse and, when twisted can be used to rally the gullible to the cause.

JRS · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:43

Maniac618 said:
It would bring people together.

No, it would remove one excuse that terrorists could use, or even drive all religion 'underground'......which would be a pretty bad move.

Maniac618 said:
Extremist muslims wouldn't be blowing themselves up if it wasn't for Islam existing in the first place.

What, you don't think they'd have found a different excuse?

William · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:44

no they don't they only bring people of the SAME faith together. They have finer points that disagree with other religions and cause conflict and friction that way, whether it is said publically or not.

A party that wished to extinguish religion would do the following:

Unite all relgions against that party.
Fracture support among the non-religious so that some of your seemingly natural policy followers would now be against you.
Be a huge media target for ridicule.

Pudney · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:44

Maniac618 said:
Extremist muslims wouldn't be blowing themselves up if it wasn't for Islam existing in the first place.

Obviously, religion isn't the cause of every act of terrorism, but at the moment it's about 90% of the cause of most attacks (israel, palestine, iraq, afghanistan, america and ireland in the past)

I think if you took religion out of the equation people would be more than able to find another reason to start conflicts. It's in our nature, and essentially boils down to terrortorial and people control. It's a bit naive to think that it wouldnt still happen without religion.

Jumpingmedic · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:44

So much for freedom to believe whatever you like. OH NO IT'S THE THOUGHT POLICE!

:rolleyes:

jezsoup · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:45

Maniac618 said:
Extremist muslims wouldn't be blowing themselves up if it wasn't for Islam existing in the first place.

Obviously, religion isn't the cause of every act of terrorism, but at the moment it's about 90% of the cause of most attacks (israel, palestine, iraq, afghanistan, america and ireland in the past)

Ive siad it before, but people will always find reasons to kill each other. Many many killings/genocides/acts of violence/terrorism are done not under the banner of religion. Pol pot, thet tutsis and hutus, WW1, WW2, stalins mass genoicde etc etc

End of the day religion does far more good than it does bad, its just a convenient whipping boy and scape goat.

Kroegen · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:46

What a silly idea. :rolleyes:

Maniac618 · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:46

Steeps said:
why not look on the other side of the plate, we complain about out of control youths on the street vandalising property and causing annoyance to residents. what religion should we blame for that?

that's parents failing to teach standard worldwide morals, not such fiction as jesus walking on water or whatever. No religion is required for simple right and wrong lessons. Yes religion created morals, but the actual need for religion now that we have morals is non existant.

Hmmm, well I've had no sleep all night as I've been games testing, but I think when I wake, i'll get my idea moving, maybe not even as a politcal party, but I'll do something.

William · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:49

Maniac618 said:
Yes religion created morals, but the actual need for religion now that we have morals is non existant.

The actual spiritual need of a few billion might create a need....

Rich_L · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:49

I think you would get further with a party that simply argued for total secularism in government, rather than being against religion full stop.

William · 7 Jul 2006 at 10:49

Rich_L said:
I think you would get further with a party that simply argued for total secularism in government, rather than being against religion full stop.

Well France managed it by about 1905.