Spawn said:
Kinda hard to do mate...no offence but both phones arent out on the market so to speak. From what i could see pics wise the Tyn Tyn is quite a bit bigger than the p990i. Not only that the p990i is a phone at the heart then a pda secondly imho, the tyn tyn is a pda then phone...the size and the fact it runs on Windows mobile is enough to put me off them as ive used windows mobile extensively...used the o2 exec and i found that cumbersome at times.
The TyTn *is* currently available (although only just) and is actually slightly smaller than the P990i.
TyTn: 112.5 x 58 x 21.95 (mm)
P990i: 114 x 57 x 25 (mm)
By volume it is a fair amount smaller, although it weighs 26g more than the P990i.
To be honest I'm not sure I'd base a WM5 experience on an early device like the HTC Universal (O2 Exec) - it was one of the first WM5 devices and very cumbersome because of its size alone. WM5 is now pretty mature especially the AKU 2.3 version on the TyTn.
Speaking as an SE M600i owner and therfore UIQ3 device owner, I am really not convinced that Symbian these days is any better if at all than WM5 as a platform.
Currently UIQ3/Symbian 9.1 in the M600i and the P990i has huge memory issues (ie the lack of it) and right now it is pretty buggy - nothing like as mature as the P910i was, but then you wouldn't expect it to be.
Reports of Symbian being greatly more stable than recent WM5 devices are IMO greatly over exagerated.
On top of this there will likely be very little software (especially freeware) available for the UIQ3 platform (and Symbian 9.x in general including S60) because of the daft "Symbian signed" scheme which forces just about any useful software to go through a rather expensive signing process. It also means that any bug fixes however minor then need resubmitting for resigning - at of course a cost to the developer. To be honest if I was a Symbian developer I'm not sure I'd bother based on the expense of getting apps signed and resigned. Symbian has really shot themselves in the foot here.
The WM5 software library is growing by the day and Microsoft seem to want to encourage developers by releasing plenty of useful development tools.
Whilst I'd agree that Symbian devices tend to be phone first and PDA second and the opposite for WM5 devices, I think it depends entirely on the type of device you are looking for.
As a techy I much prefer the idea of WM5 being what I'd consider more of a a traditional OS with plenty to hack around. Symbian 9.x and UIQ3 is almost 100% locked down and prevents the user from doing anything interesting - you can't even see half the file system on the device for example.
Until around a week ago I was dead set on getting an SE P990i, but I am now really seriously considering a TyTn (the proper HTC variant not a network branded version) - not least because of the impending UK availability of the Slingbox Mobile client, but also because down to the delays of the P990i I think it will have a very limited shelf life. October time at the Smartphone show is when SE traditionally announce a new P-series device and that date is getting closer by the minute.
Decisions, decisions.......
Still probably going to go for the TyTN (Vario II) but my 910i does every thing I need right now.
. So far from what i have seen and heard about the p990i, it looks good.
) - guessing they should both turn up on TMobile too (unlike a lot of the N Series)
. Finally the wait is over, dont know how i managed to live without my p900 for such a long time.