Well said!!

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This is a statement by the head of the SanFrancisco Police Federation after the death of an officer whilst on duty.

well said

If only our police federations were as willing to be brave and stand up for what they believe in rather than bowing to pathetic human rights laws, health and safety and the pittiful criminal justice system then the world would be a safer place.

The police are and absolutely should be held accountable foe what they do, however, the criminals don't seem to be held accountable for anything.
The CPS won't charge for anything they don't 100% thiink they'll win because they're skint, the judges hand out pittiful sentances, if they punish at all, the victims recieve precious little support and the criminals are bailed to re-offend almost as soon as they are arrested!!
Why wouldn't you commit crime?? There is no deterrant!! Yet a police officer doing his job is scrutinised and heavily investigated at the say so of these criminals who should hold no credability whatsoever in my oppinion.
 
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Chris [BEANS] said:
Human Rights laws are there to protect everybody, not just criminals. They are even there to protect the police, as are health and safety rules.

Certainly, there are times when those rules break down at the extremes, as any rules based system does. But by abandoning those rules, those breakdowns propogate themselves throughout.

The police, and anybody imbued with more authority than a normal citizen, must be hald to a higher standard of accountablility and oversight, for the very reason that they are able to excercise that authority.
 
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Samtheman1k said:
What does he say as I don't want to sit through the adverts...?

Just watch them, only 30 seconds or so. :p

I thought it was very well said, and he's just right to point the finger at the media and the lenient judges who rightfully should have never let that guy walk the streets again.
 
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Good man. A proper cop that speaks his mind regardless of the consequences and above all, speaks the truth.

In comparison, we have tossers like Ian Blair making excuses for the criminal or "a piece of garbage" which is a more accurate description.
 
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Borris said:
The police, and anybody imbued with more authority than a normal citizen, must be hald to a higher standard of accountablility and oversight, for the very reason that they are able to excercise that authority.

Exactly, and where that breaks down is when it comes to judges which was his best point made IMO. I think the death of that police officer is partly the responsibility of the judge who gave the criminal bail.
 
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Borris said:
Human Rights laws are there to protect everybody, not just criminals. They are even there to protect the police, as are health and safety rules.

Damn right. They even protect armed Afghan hi-jackers who take a plane by force, terrify passengers, threaten death and destruction and are given a free pass to be in the UK. Very good laws, no ?

Certainly, there are times when those rules break down at the extremes, as any rules based system does. But by abandoning those rules, those breakdowns propogate themselves throughout.

Abandoning the Human Rights Act or amending it is just what the country and the law needs to rectify some shocking decisions that have happened. People had rights before it, but they had to take their case to the European Court on such matters. The current situation allows for massive abuse.

The police, and anybody imbued with more authority than a normal citizen, must be hald to a higher standard of accountablility and oversight, for the very reason that they are able to excercise that authority.

They are more accountable and are more so than they have ever been.

On the OP's video link, it would be a refreshing change and potential for a catalyst to change if someone like Sir Ian Blair voiced disapproval so vocally at the way things are. Sanfrancisco and London or the United States and the United Kingdom may be different policing environments but the things that SFPD officer said rings very true over here also.
 
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Von Smallhausen said:
On the OP's video link, it would be a refreshing change and potential for a catalyst to change if someone like Sir Ian Blair voiced disapproval so vocally at the way things are. Sanfrancisco and London or the United States and the United Kingdom may be different policing environments but the things that SFPD officer said rings very true over here also.

Would it not be better for the police and judiciary to work together, rather than indulging in a public spat via media proxies?
 
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Disregarding human rights is ridiculous. Look at what is happening in Guantanamo for gods sake, people held without charge, without fair trail, for as long the USA wants. :mad:

All that I think is needed, is good old common sense. If people are using the system to exploit loopholes then these people should be stopped.
 
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