4800+ Worth The Upgrade From 3700+ ?

Coolit · 24 Sep 2006 at 12:33

Hi all,

I Have a 3700+ @ 2960mhz on water atm but I think its holding my two 7900GTX graphics cards back, heres why... Out of interest (and I Like to fiddle)I down clocked both 7900GTX's cards to 650/650 from 650/800 and benched them, firstly using 3dmark 06 then the CS:S speed test.

The results surprised me, I lost only 50pts in 06 and 7fps in CS:S. I then overclocked both cards a little and saw very little gain, so I'm guessing the CPU is holding me back and stopping me from getting the most out of the cards.

So... I saw that the x2 4800+ is down to a reasonable £215, having a 939 motherboard I have a limited upgrade path and this sounds like my last chance to bag one of these cpu's I just wondered if I would see any performance benefit over the 3700+ as its at almost 3gig and how well the 4800+ cpu's clock bearing in mind I have a pretty good water cooler setup.

Thanks!

kona ryan · 24 Sep 2006 at 12:42

id say not chap, as not many progs will ultize the dual core ness of the 4800+ you may get a better OC from it but thats luck of the draw id say, if you want to see big gains then its to the darkside im afraid

Ryan.

Rab · 24 Sep 2006 at 12:45

with w/c u should get around 2.8ghz np, probs more. big diff thou with dc for me is the amount more u can do on the pc @ the same times as say decoding/ripping ect, with single core, was always w8 on 1 job finishing before could start the other. also WHEN a lot more Appz or Games r released with d/c in mind they should get far better. ( TBH thou, how long d/c been out now, aint much in the piplines, from any companys 2 let us use d/c )

best thing i ever done was go d/c, had a athlon64 3000 @ 2.5ghz, got my 3800 @ same, big diff for me

gurusan · 24 Sep 2006 at 12:54

Rab said:
with w/c u should get around 2.8ghz np, probs more. big diff thou with dc for me is the amount more u can do on the pc @ the same times as say decoding/ripping ect, with single core, was always w8 on 1 job finishing before could start the other. also WHEN a lot more Appz or Games r released with d/c in mind they should get far better. ( TBH thou, how long d/c been out now, aint much in the piplines, from any companys 2 let us use d/c )

best thing i ever done was go d/c, had a athlon64 3000 @ 2.5ghz, got my 3800 @ same, big diff for me

English please?

Cob · 24 Sep 2006 at 13:12

The x2 4800 is a lot of money. The x2 4400 at £165 is far better value and should clock to atleast 2.6Ghz, possibly higher.

Coolit · 24 Sep 2006 at 13:27

I did think about the 4600+ and it's a good bit cheaper but I felt as it only has 512Kb L2 cache and the 4800+ has 1mb there would be a significant performance difference?

Cob · 24 Sep 2006 at 13:29

The x2 4400 has 2x1mb of cache too.

squiffy · 24 Sep 2006 at 13:32

Windows itself is a multi-threaded OS, so it does generally feel nippier, but you have to do a bit of heavy work to see the difference, things like Photoshop, gaming whilst encoding in the background...that sort of thing. Helps having several drives if heavy HD I/O other both SC and DC will slowdown because of HD bottleback (recently added a second HD, so playing game off that, whilst other drive is encoding music) much faster than both accessing the same drive at the same.

UKTopGun · 24 Sep 2006 at 14:06

I wouldn't have though a 3700+ at nearly 3Ghz would be bottlenecking your graphics cards.

Because if an AMD chip @ nearly 3Ghz is bottlenecking your CPU (I dont think a X2 4800+ is going to go much higher) then you are going to have to move to Conroe.

bilston · 24 Sep 2006 at 14:12

My 4800 wont go above 2.7ghz and thats with nearly 1.6v. On water. At 60C prime on each core. :/

Try the 4400 instead if you are feeling lucky, many of us who stumped up the cash for the 4800 arent seeing the clocks.

squiffy · 24 Sep 2006 at 14:19

bilston said:
My 4800 wont go above 2.7ghz and thats with nearly 1.6v. On water. At 60C prime on each core. :/

Try the 4400 instead if you are feeling lucky, many of us who stumped up the cash for the 4800 arent seeing the clocks.

that is quite poor I can manage 2.7ghz on a 4440+ 1.535v, 50 load on air.

bilston · 24 Sep 2006 at 14:47

squiffy said:
that is quite poor I can manage 2.7ghz on a 4440+ 1.535v, 50 load on air.

What motherboard do you have? Im on the Asrock cheapo one.

squiffy · 24 Sep 2006 at 14:49

siggy poo.

UKTopGun · 24 Sep 2006 at 15:13

bilston said:
What motherboard do you have? Im on the Asrock cheapo one.

No wonder you only get 2.7Ghz then. Why spend £300+ on CPU + Water then buy a cheap mobo? :confused:

Gandalf501 · 24 Sep 2006 at 15:16

Rab said:
with w/c u should get around 2.8ghz np, probs more. big diff thou with dc for me is the amount more u can do on the pc @ the same times as say decoding/ripping ect, with single core, was always w8 on 1 job finishing before could start the other. also WHEN a lot more Appz or Games r released with d/c in mind they should get far better. ( TBH thou, how long d/c been out now, aint much in the piplines, from any companys 2 let us use d/c )

best thing i ever done was go d/c, had a athlon64 3000 @ 2.5ghz, got my 3800 @ same, big diff for me

OMG, was this posted from a mobile phone???

Rab · 24 Sep 2006 at 16:03

Gandalf501 said:
OMG, was this posted from a mobile phone???

& the point is ?? what cant u understand ?

w/c + watercooled
dc = dual core
lol u try 2 help & u get this.

Rab · 24 Sep 2006 at 16:05

gurusan said:
English please?

& this helped this thread HOW?
Edit found that out , 300+ post just joined, nice spamming

Gandalf501 · 24 Sep 2006 at 17:16

Rab said:
& the point is ?? what cant u understand ?

w/c + watercooled
dc = dual core
lol u try 2 help & u get this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L33t

w/c = water closet?
dc = direct current?
lol = Leg of Lamb?

Gandalf501 · 24 Sep 2006 at 17:17

Rab said:
& this helped this thread HOW?
Edit found that out , 300+ post just joined, nice spamming

SPAM

Madwelsh · 24 Sep 2006 at 18:08

Rab said:
& this helped this thread HOW?
Edit found that out , 300+ post just joined, nice spamming

lol and yet people who try and post constructively and not spam are penalised by not being able to access all forum functions.. When I joined I think you needed 75 posts to view members market? How about if you've been here 12 months, you get full forum privileges anyways? I made a thread about it on general discussion board, was deleted by a mod in about 10mins.. who simply commented No, no, and no.. Which was super helpful. Made me think hmm... maybe I shouldn't have spent 5k+ in last few years with ocuk..

Still, spam seems the way ahead, thing is, I can't do one smilie or one word posts, I just don't see the point.