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i'll go further and say most people that own expensive cars as a rule are less skilled drivers than many of those those in lower priced cars.Nor said:Hehe that's so true
Who's owned a Rover?
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austinpowers said:
I tried some injector cleaner in my 214 which helped a little. Might have to give that a go when I get the 220 back. I don't drive my cars gently either, so god knows why the valves stick from cold. It's also had an oil change while it's been in the garage so hopefully, that should help cure it.
cymatty said:
My point of this thread is based on the majority of this people on here (or that I speak to in person) who slate Rover's just because of what they've heard or read... most of the time they go along with it just because everyone else does.
Take a member on here. We used to get along fine and on several occasions, she commented on Rover's and even my car, saying how nice they were etc etc. Suprise suprise, we had a huge argument and fell out, and what's this, she starts slating Rover's. Hmmm, that's a co-incidence isn't it.
How you got onto talking about 0-60 times and interior design is beyond me. Oh, and btw... the Saxo interior is nasty
Jonny, your old GTi looked mental
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I have run a rover Mini for the last year. Never really given me any bother - 100% reliable (apart from a crap battery which was my fault).
Dad had a Rover 75 for 5 years. Never any problems.
Dad had a Rover 75 for 5 years. Never any problems.
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Dogbreath said:
Although the HGF problem shouldn't extend to me (Toyota engine), if I did suffer from it then I certainly wouldn't be getting my hands dirty.
I'd much rather pay £500 to a specialist that has done the job a hundred times before than spend days in my garage bleeding all over my engine.
I follow the same rule in all aspects of my life. If I need central heating fitting, I call a plumber, if I need a staircarpet fitting I call a carpet fitter, if I need an extension building I'll call a builder.
It reminds me of the following. (I used to follow the mens instructions until I figured out that I'd rather pay £30 to a garage than spend a couple of hours under my car poking a screwdriver through my oil filter that just won't budge)
WOMEN:
1. Pull up to Jiffy Lube when the mileage reaches 3000 since the last oil change.
2. Drink a cup of coffee.
3. 15 minutes later, write a check and leave with a properly maintained vehicle.
Money Spent:
$20.00 Oil Change
$1.00 Coffee
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$21.00 Total
MEN:
1. Go to auto parts store and write a check for $50 dollars for oil, filter, kitty litter, hand cleaner and scented tree.
2. Discover that the used oil container is full. Instead of taking it back to recycle, dump in hole in back yard.
3. Open a beer and drink it.
4. Jack car up. Spend 30 minutes looking for jack stands.
5. Find jack stands under kid's pedal car.
6. In frustration, open another beer and drink it.
7. Place drain pan under engine.
8. Look for 9/16 box end wrench.
9. Give up and use crescent wrench.
10. Unscrew drain plug.
11. Drop drain plug in pan of hot oil; get hot oil on you in process.
12. Clean up.
13. Have another beer while oil is draining.
14. Look for oil filter wrench.
15. Give up; poke oil filter with screwdriver and twist it off.
16. Beer.
17. Buddy shows up; finish case with him. Finish oil change tomorrow.
18. Next day, drag pan full of old oil out from underneath car.
19. Throw kitty litter on oil spilled during step 18.
20. Beer. No, drank it all yesterday.
21. Walk to 7-11; buy beer.
22. Install new oil filter making sure to apply thin coat of clean oil to gasket first.
23. Dump first quart of fresh oil into engine.
24. Remember drain plug from step 11.
25. Hurry to find drain plug in drain pan.
26. Hurry to replace drain plug before the whole quart of fresh oil drains onto floor.
27. Slip with wrench and bang knuckles on frame.
28. Bang head on floor board in reaction.
29. Begin cussing fit.
30. Throw wrench.
31. Cuss for additional 10 minutes because wrench hit Miss December (1992) in the left breast.
32. Clean up. Apply Band-Aid to knuckle.
33. Beer.
34. Beer.
35. Dump in additional 4 quarts of oil.
36. Beer.
37. Lower car from jack stands
38. Accidentally crush one of the jack stands
39. Move car back to apply more kitty litter to fresh oil spilled during step 23.
40. Test drive car.
41. Get pulled over; arrested for driving under the influence.
42. Car gets impounded.
43. Make bail. Get car from impound yard.
Total Time Spent ???
Money Spent:
$50 parts
$12 beer
$75 replacement set of jack stands; hey the colors have to match!
$1000 Bail
$200 Impound and towing fee
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$1337 Total
eidolon said:
I hope you realised my post was not a dig at you, but many car enthusiasts in general, it's just that the elise happened to be the car mentioned in the previous post.
eidolon said:
The difference is that I probably wouldn't have the £500 to spare, and I have a very high distrust of the skill level of people I don't know. In general dealers and specialists don't actualy care about your car, they simply care about getting it fixed in the least time possible and for the greatest profit possible whilst hopefully maintaining some minimum level of quality. Same goes for plumbers, builders and virtualy all other trades. Even specialists that have an apparently good reputation can royaly screw things up due to ignorance, lack of common sense or worse some other underlying motive.
I prefer to do my own work wherever I can, because
1) I save a lot money.
2) I know the jobs been done exactly how I wanted, to my own standards.
3) I can spend as much time as is needed to carefully inspect everything, possibly saving a future job.
4) I know the pedigree of any parts I might use, i.e. it's up to me if I want to take a risk on third party parts.
5) I get to learn first hand about the ins and outs of the car/project etc. so if I ever do have to talk to a stealer, I know exactly when they are talking BS (generaly when their lips move).
There are some areas where I know my limits, e.g. if I want a decent paint job I won't be doing it myself as I neither have the patience, skill or equipment.
If I had the income to be able to afford to run expensive cars, perhaps my attitudes would change, if only because lack of the (otherwise meaningless) dealer stamp devalues expensive cars.
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agw_01 said:I Oh, and btw... the Saxo interior is nasty
How very dare you.
Cheap and rattly yes, I think it is more modern than the Roverinterior so it gets my thumbs up.
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agw_01 said:The Rover's dash just looks much better quality than the Saxo's and don't even get me started on your centre console
I cry everytime I get in it
I never argued on the quality I am on about the modern design n00b.
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Dogbreath said:
Yeah, don't worry mate, I didn't think it was a dig at me. I was just highlighting that for me, it's easier (and probably cheaper) for me to pay a professional to do bigger jobs. Firstly I don't have the tools necessary so I'd have to spend a small fortune purchasing them and secondly it would take me far longer to achieve the same result.
I don't mind the minor jobs like changing brakes, exhausts etc. but for stuff like headgaskets or similar then I'll quite happily pay somebody else to do it.
Dogbreath said:
I agree with the comment about dealers, Honda have been absolutely terrible with regards to the CTR but there are some very good specialists out there that really will do a top quality job. Despite working less than a mile away from my local Lotus dealer, I'll be driving a couple of hours up to Birmingham to Horizon for any work that needs doing on the Elise.
agw_01 said:
I always had you down as someone with a bit of style merlin!
When you've got £200 to spend on your first car - style doesn't even enter the equation. Having a car that only had two holes in the floorpan was practically luxurious.
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I currently drive a 620ti and I'm still waiting for the day when it explodes on me. That day will be a great day
Seriously, I love my car when it runs right, which it currently doesn't as I have an oil leak form somewhere, it runs dodgy in first gear, it creaks something rotten even when at a stand still, I've got a sticky rear caliper, a leak somewhere in the front causing a swimming pool to form in the drivers foot well and more rust than I can shake a stick at. But at the end of the day I still love it, just need to get it fixed up, don't want to think of how much it's gonna cost to get put right though
Seriously, I love my car when it runs right, which it currently doesn't as I have an oil leak form somewhere, it runs dodgy in first gear, it creaks something rotten even when at a stand still, I've got a sticky rear caliper, a leak somewhere in the front causing a swimming pool to form in the drivers foot well and more rust than I can shake a stick at. But at the end of the day I still love it, just need to get it fixed up, don't want to think of how much it's gonna cost to get put right though
I've owned 2 Rovers. Recently it was a 75 CDT. Never had a spot of bother and was probably one of the most comfortable cars I've ever been in, shaming a lot of MUCH more expensive cars.
When I was younger, had a first generation 213S (with the Honda engine). That made 114,000 miles in 3 years, again with no bother. Handled like a barge, but not to worry.
When I was younger, had a first generation 213S (with the Honda engine). That made 114,000 miles in 3 years, again with no bother. Handled like a barge, but not to worry.
R0551 said:I currently drive a 620ti and I'm still waiting for the day when it explodes on me. That day will be a great day
Seriously, I love my car when it runs right, which it currently doesn't as I have an oil leak form somewhere, it runs dodgy in first gear, it creaks something rotten even when at a stand still, I've got a sticky rear caliper, a leak somewhere in the front causing a swimming pool to form in the drivers foot well and more rust than I can shake a stick at. But at the end of the day I still love it, just need to get it fixed up, don't want to think of how much it's gonna cost to get put right though
Do you rag it in first gear? Rover used plastic bearing cages in their gearboxes. If you rag them a lot, the cages tend to go. You can get uprated steel cages which solve this problem.
Oil leak? Any idea where from? Top or bottom of the engine?
Does your car have air-con? Does the coolant level go down at all?
Sell it to me for cheap. I'll fix it and then you can buy it back for muchos profit
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agw_01 said:Do you rag it in first gear? Rover used plastic bearing cages in their gearboxes. If you rag them a lot, the cages tend to go. You can get uprated steel cages which solve this problem.
Oil leak? Any idea where from? Top or bottom of the engine?
Does your car have air-con? Does the coolant level go down at all?
Sell it to me for cheap. I'll fix it and then you can buy it back for muchos profit
1. I may do occasionally
how much we looking at?2. No idea, need to clean the engine to find the leak, there is oil everywhere
3. No Aircon
4. No chance sonny jim
1. There are a few people who rebuild the boxes. Cheapest I've seen is around £200. But once it's done, they won't need doing again.
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3. Hmm, could be the heater matrix leaking then. Checked your coolant recently?
4. Pft, try to help a guy out and get nothing in return. Some people
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3. Hmm, could be the heater matrix leaking then. Checked your coolant recently?
4. Pft, try to help a guy out and get nothing in return. Some people
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I've found a quick and easy way to fix car permenantly:
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ok, i know u said only people who have owned rovers can reply but i wanna give my 2 cents. we have had 5 rovers in the family all owned by my brother. started with a 216 which got stolen, then a 416gti which got stolen, then another 216 which was written off, then another 216 which is still running, and a recently purchased 416gti. All of them cost very little and have been reliable as anything. the interior on all of them has been pretty poor but they are still good cars