COD3 on PS3 limited to 720p?

masterluke · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:01

I've been reading gamespot's PS3 COD3 review which says...

"Call of Duty 3's visuals are great, though a problematic frame rate leaves the game looking decidedly less impressive than it does on the Xbox 360. The game, of course, looks best in high definition (the maximum resolution is 720p), but it still looks nice when viewed on a standard television display"

http://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/action/callofduty3/review.html?page=2

That can't be right surely? I thought PS3 was supposed to give us games at 1080p?

Can anyone confirm this?

Caustic · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:07

And it will give us games at 1080p, thats not to say that all games will run at 1080p tho'.

Echo toxin · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:08

The magic of video upscaling again!

Wyrdo · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:11

masterluke said:
That can't be right surely? I thought PS3 was supposed to give us games at 1080p?

It's capable of doing it but it doesn't mean all games are developed in 1080P, same for the 360 now.

Ripper · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:11

why are there framerate problems when it runs perfectly on the 360

masterluke · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:17

that is pretty tragic.. the 360 can do COD3 smoothly at 1080i and the PS3 sounds like it is struggling to output it at 720p.

Chrisss · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:19

360 version got 8.8, PS3 version got 8.2.

dirtydog · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:22

The 360 version isn't even 720p is it?

The Running Man · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:25

Ripper^ said:
why are there framerate problems when it runs perfectly on the 360

poor coding team/rushed work?

masterluke - you do realise some xbox360 games arent even a true 720P?

Manlove is my forte · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:29

Nickg said:
poor coding team/rushed work?

masterluke - you do realise some xbox360 games arent even a true 720P?

Including this one

The Running Man · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:31

Kronologic said:
Including this one

but SHHH dont tell Masterluke - his prejudice may not be able to take it!

Phil99 · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:32

masterluke said:
that is pretty tragic.. the 360 can do COD3 smoothly at 1080i and the PS3 sounds like it is struggling to output it at 720p.

It can? I always thought 360 games were rendered internally at 720p and then upscaled?

How long have PS3 devs had their final dev kits compared to the 360 ones? It's also apparently harder to code games for the PS3 (as with the PS2) so it's probably going to be a while before we start seeing some really good looking PS3 games with no issues.

Manlove is my forte · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:33

Nickg said:
but SHHH dont tell Masterluke - his prejudice may not be able to take it!

I think the difference is that the 360 can upscale the game to 1080p afaik. The PS3 by all accounts cant. I wonder why?

Gerard · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:35

Framerate could also be due to the fact that the gpu in the ps3 is pretty basic compared to the unified pipeline gpu in the 360. Could just be some scenes require more texture or pixel power, the 360 can switch between what each scene needs and the ps3 can't? :confused:

GuruJockStrap · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:39

masterluke said:
that is pretty tragic.. the 360 can do COD3 smoothly at 1080i and the PS3 sounds like it is struggling to output it at 720p.

The 360 is rendering at 720p and then upscaling to 1080i, not rendering at 1080i.

Although as Krono has pointed out, apparantly COD3 is actually being rendered at 1040x620 (instead of 1280x720) and then upscaled to 720p.

PGR3 done a similar trick and due to the upscaling, jaggies were very pronounced. Not noticeable in COD3 as the developers used tricks like depth of field and motion blur.

dirtydog · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:39

Phil99 said:
It can? I always thought 360 games were rendered internally at 720p and then upscaled?

Except PGR3 and also supposedly THP8 and COD3.

dirtydog · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:41

Gerard said:
Framerate could also be due to the fact that the gpu in the ps3 is pretty basic compared to the unified pipeline gpu in the 360. Could just be some scenes require more texture or pixel power, the 360 can switch between what each scene needs and the ps3 can't?

How 'advanced' does a GPU need to be, to run a game at 1280x720? PC games have run at a good framerate at 1024x768 and above for many years now, since Geforce2 days if not earlier. There is no excuse these days.

GuruJockStrap · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:44

dirtydog said:
How 'advanced' does a GPU need to be, to run a game at 1280x720? PC games have run at a good framerate at 1024x768 and above for many years now, since Geforce2 days if not earlier. There is no excuse these days.

I'd love to see a GeForce 2 attempt GoW visuals with the Unreal 3 engine.

Manlove is my forte · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:46

dirtydog said:
How 'advanced' does a GPU need to be, to run a game at 1280x720? PC games have run at a good framerate at 1024x768 and above for many years now, since Geforce2 days if not earlier. There is no excuse these days.

Oh here we go.

Is it not possible that these consoles are displaying far more than the PC games of yester-year? If that was the case more computing power would be required, surely.

dirtydog · 15 Nov 2006 at 15:51

Kronologic said:
Oh here we go.

Is it not possible that these consoles are displaying far more than the PC games of yester-year? If that was the case more computing power would be required, surely.

Geforce2 ran Geforce2-ERA games at 'HD' resolutions.

Why can today's console GPU's not run today's ERA games at HD resolutions please?

It is all relative.

Oh and not to mention that Geforce2-era computers had Pentium IIIs or whatever. Today's consoles are more powerful in all respects so they should run the more detailed games with better effects etc. at the same res and speed.