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Yes but people who have contacts like steve from harwareunboxed and hardocp are saying that its a % thing, buy so many packs get so many stand alones. plus retailers pushing vegas with no games for the same price as a vega with games and the discount tokens, ye think some might be saying fibs...

Well on the advertising, thats gonna be a regional deal, youtube being world wide just mudies the waters. But amd have come out and stated that the sep wasnt a launch price, wasnt a coupon, it was an ongoing price and that the difference was packs, and that amd are allotting a set ammount of...

I can see there thinking behind it, dx12 has next to no legacy in it unless someone bakes it into it. So that makes old hardware usless, which is the main problem of dx11 and below, because dx had a legacy of if it existed, then code has tobe there to run it. So dx12 and win10 only supporting...

Watch the video...........

Ok then so if thats all from this and that explain what the yorkshire language is, after that lancastrian :P Gi'oer, gander owt reight bobar, eeh by gum

he was running it against cards he had, as an aussie and not the biggest channel i dont think he has access to everything, but he did do it against custom cards and not just the founders. the video has more results and so does his website.

I agree, he is starting to become really good. And amdmatt can i ask you, what is going on with some of those dx12 results, i know gamesworks can do some damage but how much of dx12 do some of these companys have to impliment to have the dx12 stamp on them as it seems some of these dx12 tests...

And ye know what, 1080ti has what, 12gb of vram, when thats full; what ye gonna do apart from buy a new gpu and its not like we are even close to saturating pciex16, there is hardly any impact going from x16 to x8. And the reason why no one has gotten excited about it from pascal is cos pascal...

And thats where the rest of the ecosystem comes into play by having gpu, system ram and 1 nvme device going right through ryzen, and going through ryzen is a lot faster then going through the chipset to cpu then to gpu. And amd already have a gpu with a nvme right on it, its only required for...

Hbcc has many advantages, it allows to offload not so quite needed data and then call it fast when its required, also an oddity is when you turn hbcc on even when its not being used it does give a small increase which makes some think that with it being attached to ram that the infinity fabric...

Well the point of dx12 is that its slim line, no legacy, that means there is next to no intel or nvidia legacy stuff in there. Bill gates himself has spoken out about nvidia and intels practices with backloading direct x. Thats why in a lot of dx12 games if its implemented right then amd can do...

Your probably on about adorded, but there is only really one feature in vega that requires devs to impliment. That being rapid packed math. Everything else is done by the gpu itself, what jim was on about more then anything with vega is the fact that for the full potential of vega it needs...

Like nvidia dont pay and throw devs at them to make it easier to get gameworks into it so deep it lowers amd gpus performance and to even change render engines to make gameworks actually work. Who ye think has the most cash, nvidia or amd ?

Well thats something, do amd make there own cards, even there ref cards are from custom board partners.

The pc is brute forcing everything, its that the games are built in such a way that brute force is the way todo cos its the easiest way. These things should stop it.

The way i had it described to me its more a case that a job is 64, that job can be split down, so 64/32/16/8. The more you split it down the easier the job is todo in parralel aslong as you have the ability todo it in paralel. So running 32 you do the job of 64 in parralel, then again at 16 you...

its going tobe swings and roundabouts, xbox one x and ps4 pro will trade blows.

thats correct

I edited cos the new one i dont think is ps4, its ps something though lol so i just put the playstaion, consoles dont interest me that much.

new playstation actually does fp16