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I know this is going to sound st00pid, but an old Citroen ZX (Turbo Diesel 1.9) is what you need. ;) It's what I have, we have 2 kids and LOTS of luggage, but we still have nought to sixty that allows you to laugh at other drivers ;) .

The weirdest thing for me was feeling like I was breaking away from the family and starting a new one. :cool:

Almost a YEAR before christmas! lol

Mega w00t! Trust me, it's incredible. They don't even need batteries, I am REALLY chuffed for ya. :)

:D I meant, if his career had begun ten years earlier. :p :)

But he never really had anyone much to fight, a bit like Lennox Lewis. But let's face it, Holmes would probably have taken Marciano no problem. Marciano v Foreman would have been an interesting fight! As would Tyson v Marciano.

I think Lewis is under-rated, if he had been around ten years ago he would probably be considered an all-time great. But you can only beat what's around at the time and he has done that. Tyson was incredible in his early career, and was set to be the next all-time great but it didn't really...

Roy Jones has been mentioned recently, as have Leonard, Hearns, Hagler and Ali. In your mind who was the greatest pound-for-pound fighter in history? For my money I consider myself privileged to have been around when I could see Hearns, Hagler and Sugar Ray Leonard fighting it out. And I...

Hmm, how does that fit in then? :confused:

Is this old chestnut still going? Ruud fits better in a Man Utd team, Henry looks class compared to the rest of Arsenal. Game over, discussion ended, topic finished.

No, it was the fortieth thing to be invented in Washington.

Go on then, explain, where would we be without war? ALL of man's greatest discoveries (evolution, gravity, engineering, peace) all are as a direct result of war? They are a direct result of investment, not the same thing :rolleyes: .

Quite right sir. And, to some extent I think we can agree on that, we tend to not bother inventing things we don't need. But we DO continue to invent (who knew we NEEDED the world wide web?!;) ).

Yes I understand what the expression means, but it is still trite and it is still wrong.

And that, surely, is my point. INVENTION (as dictated by necessity) does NOT include showers, jacuzzis, steam rooms, saunas, zit cream, hair wax, mascara, Ferraris and Windows.

Ah, so you're changing the definition of 'necessity' to fit your trite reasoning? We NEED showers in the same way we NEED seventy two different lagers?

We needed somewhere to live so we built brick houses with bathrooms, jacuzzis, showers, central heating etc because our caves weren't luxurious enough. We needed more food? What because the supply we had wasn't enough? No, because the supply we had wasn't EASY enough and we are...

Rubbish :p If that were true we would only have ever invented what was necessary. That would never have included farming, houses, roads, sewerage systems, shoes, need I go on?

EDIT: Woops, sorry, post included spoiler. :o

Excellent post. Not much to disagree with there. (Although the more recent Man Utd v Arsenal game doesn't seem to have got a mention ?:confused: )