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i thought about 800d but for £210 the case should be perfect or very near, spending £20-60 on extra fans/and or scythe kama bay is out of the question imo. i went with atcs 840 in the end, its not the best looking case in the world but its features make it up for it. thanks to all who posted :)

i won't be watercooling. main priorities cool quiet cable management simple design bonus removable motherboard tray black interior dust filters i won't be watercooling. i was thinking of coolermaster cosmos pure or coolermaster cosmos atcs 840.

so the 1gb spinpoint f3 will be faster than 640gb WD caviar black (aals) ? right ? i ask because the 640 gb caviar black is faster than 500gb version.

i always felt MW2 would suck, hence i didn't pre-order. unfortunately i was right, the first game was great (SP, MP was load of crap imo, i'd rather play the ageing counterstrike) now i'm waiting to see how bad crysis 2 will be, lol.

£170 for a mid tower case ?! knock a £100 off and it'd be more like it, there's nothing about this case (feature and design wise) to justify the price.

Arctic MX-3

when will sapphire roll out their vapor-x 5850's & 5870's ?

in other ram related news, ocz reaper 1333 out of stock again :( and i'll have to look around for new ram...

time to boycott nvidia ? looks like it, the developers are just as gulity as nvidia tbh. i hope EU fines them heavily... ps. its sad to see people (or fanboys) defend this type of behaviour from NVidia.

tempting, but then my brain kicked in, £100 for the "small" improvement over 5850 is not worth it for me. btw when will you guys have 5870 (and/or 5850) with vapor-x cooler ?

i can't justify spending £280 for card when you could play the same games without a problem for £100 less, will wait for reviews... when will OCUK have stock for those cards (after the 60 you guys already have will be sold) could it take as long as a month ?

if its not too much trouble could you write post explaining how did you do it ? i'd like to get this case but i'm waiting to see if it corsair correct the lack of rubber strips below the PSU, pci alignment issues and power supply alignment issues. btw did you have to use any extension cables...

http://www.vortez.co.uk/contentteller/articles_pages/arctic_mx_3_thermal_paste_review,1.html only decent review i could find.

and people said obsidian 800d is an expensive case... i'd pay £100 max for this skyscraper of a case, nothing in there to justify the price imo.

cd's & lossless downloads (legal) ***

that's not bad at all, is it only using fans that come with the case or did you install any additional ones ?

what do you guys think a 5870 would cost ? i hope the won't do $ for £ swap...

what temps are you getting ?

damn, i thought i'd get nvidia card anyway(amd/ati way of handling driver releases put me off), but these numbers are too good to ignore. looks like i'll have all amd setup unless release date is too far away(for me)...

looks great, i prefer the "ugly" & "boring" look over cases that look like a christmas tree, & made out of plastic ;)