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2005 French Grand Prix

Discussion in 'Motors Archive' started by Flibster, 28 Jun 2005.

  1. Flibster

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    2005 French Grand Prix
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  2. Flibster

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    2004 French Grand Prix Results
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  3. Flibster

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    Current Championship Standings.

    2005 Drivers Championship.
    Code:
    [b]Pos	Driver			Nationality	Team			Points[/b]
    1 	Fernando Alonso		Spanish		Renault			59 
    2 	Kimi Räikkönen		Finnish		McLaren-Mercedes	37 
    3 	Michael Schumacher	German		Ferrari			34 
    4 	Rubens Barrichello	Brazilian	Ferrari			29 
    5 	Jarno Trulli		Italian		Toyota			27 
    6 	Nick Heidfeld		German		Williams-BMW		25 
    7 	Mark Webber		Australian	Williams-BMW		22 
    8	 Ralf Schumacher	German		Toyota			20 
    =10 	Giancarlo Fisichella	Italian		Renault			17 
    =10	David Coulthard		British		Red Bull Racing		17 
    11 	Juan Pablo Montoya	Colombian	McLaren-Mercedes	16 
    12 	Felipe Massa		Brazilian	Sauber-Petronas		7 
    =14 	Tiago Monteiro		Portuguese	Jordan-Toyota		6 
    =14 	Alexander Wurz		Austrian	McLaren-Mercedes	6 
    =16 	Jacques Villeneuve	Canadian	Sauber-Petronas		5 
    =16 	Narain Karthikeyan	Indian		Jordan-Toyota		5 
    =19 	Christijan Albers	Dutch		Minardi-Cosworth	4 
    =19 	Pedro de la Rosa	Spanish		McLaren-Mercedes	4 
    =19 	Christian Klien		Austrian	Red Bull Racing		4 
    20 	Patrick Friesacher	Austrian	Minardi-Cosworth	3 
    21 	Vitantonio Liuzzi	Italian		Red Bull Racing		1 
    
    2005 Constructors Championship.
    Code:
    [b]Pos	Constructor 		Points[/b]
    1	Renault			76
    =3	McLaren-Mercedes	63
    =3	Ferrari			63
    =5	Toyota			47
    =5	Williams-BMW		47
    6	Red Bull Racing		22
    7	Sauber-Petronas		12
    8	Jordan-Toyota		11
    9	Minardi-Cosworth	7
    
     
  4. Flibster

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    So...

    Why have I created this thread so early?

    Because Max Mosely and cronies have called the Indy 7 and Michelin in front of the World Motorsports Council tomorrow...

    The 7 teams, Michelin and Paul Stoddart are meating today - probably to get story straight and to show a consolidated front. If they do that - punishment will be hard to dish out. They will have to treat everyone fairly.

    On a semi related note - Toyota have pulled out of all open wheel racing series in America fromthe end of 2006. Going to be concentrateing on GPWC maybe?

    Will do updates with whatever news I get whenever. :D

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  5. Type_R

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    Can I just ask why Stoddart will be there? He was not one of the teams who did not take part in the US so why should he be there?
     
  6. pdw8

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    He wanted to pull his team out despite the fact that they run Bridgestones. The reason he didnt was due to Jordan who is the nearest rival and he didnt want to loose points to them.
     
  7. Flibster

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    It also appears that he is the voice of the GPWC teams...

    Good choice actually - since when has anyone been able to shut an Aussie up. :D We tried with Kylie and Jason...they still got no1 albums. :confused: *although..I admit that Kylie has got very fit in the last few years. ;)*

    He wanted to withdraw his cars but was afraid of repurcussions. If the Jordans had broken down/crashed then he would have withdrawn the Minardi's. He just couldn't afford to while they were running.

    I actually like Stoddy...He's a F1 fan..he bought a F1 team after running in the TGP/Boss championships. *successfully I might add..* I don't think it's quite how he imagined...

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  8. Richard T

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    Lets hope we have a race this time. Lets hope Max Max does not come down too hard on the 7 teams who is my opinion had nothing to do with the mess.
     
  9. Joe T

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    Sweepstake on how many cars will start, anyone? :p
     
  10. Richard T

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    I like Stoddart, he seems down to earth (as far as I can see on the TV and reading and listening to his interviews) Lets hope common sense prevails
     
  11. Richard T

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  12. The Running Man

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    hmm on a random, i was watching soem F3 in the pub last night, and it was actually very good, closer racing, more overtaking etc...

    was pondering which leaves F1 could borrow from it.
     
  13. Richard T

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    F1 seriously needs to go back to slicks and have a reduction in aero grip. There were some new rules mentioned the week before the non event in the usa that mentioned these changes. Its nothing to do with the tracks its the rules that balls up real racing in F1
     
  14. Richard T

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    Did anyone see the story anout the Ferrari tyre heaters?
    Are they Illegal or what?....Bet they dont get a ban if there are illegal
    Here
     
  15. Flibster

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    Oh no - the tracks are crap as well...A reduction in aero grip and an increase in mechanical will only help so far..

    The new Herman Tilke tracks are showcasing his ability to design a circuit - yes - well they ain't good for racing on!

    The neutered Hockenheim is terrible for overtaking, as is Sepang - I'm just hoping that Turkey is better

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  16. Flibster

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    The FIA sporting/technical bods have deemed them legal - They do seem to be stretching the term 'Tyre Blankets' to/past the limit though.

    It's an oven - who cares if it's got the same guts in it as a tyre blanket does...it's not a blanket.

    McLaren tried these and were told they were not in the spirit of the rules last year....

    Hmmm...

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  17. Richard T

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    Opps I meant the PROPER tracks...the old ones... I agree with you on the New tracks. They are good for the spectator viewing (trackside not TV) but terrible for racing.
    I do think the Bahrain circuit is the best of the new ones
     
  18. Richard T

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    grrr double post :confused:
     
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  19. Richard T

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    bah!
    Typical FIA and Ferrari bull

    so that means all the other teams can use them as well
     
  20. Flibster

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    Yup - deemed legal for Ferrari must mean all the other teams can use them.

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