7900 - 13,000 3dMark05

mrbios · 13 Jan 2006 at 16:40

how soon is very soon gibbo?

got me excited, my x850xt is getting a little bit grey on top (quite literally as i havent cleaned the dust off it in ages) so ill be looking to upgrade soon

speeduk · 13 Jan 2006 at 18:21

This is getting silly. X3 is probably the most demanding game out there with high use of shaders etc and my 7800gt runs it flawlessly. All this will lead to is badly coded games.

LoadsaMoney · 13 Jan 2006 at 18:36

Same here, tried the x3 benchmark, maxed to the hilt 1280x1024 (TFT) average was about 45fps, all they are doing is releasing cards to get one up on each other imo, they are going to run the same games maxed out just like our cards can.

Legless · 13 Jan 2006 at 23:06

I guess when this cars released, there'll be lots of willy waving over 3DMark05 scores, that is, until 3DMark06 comes out and kills the card... Hehe...

Goksly · 13 Jan 2006 at 23:36

LoadsaMoney said:
Same here, tried the x3 benchmark, maxed to the hilt 1280x1024 (TFT) average was about 45fps, all they are doing is releasing cards to get one up on each other imo, they are going to run the same games maxed out just like our cards can.

megh - not really. when they max out the res with AA/AF, then comes along Adaptive AA and then HDR. If your PC can give 60fps+ in games like farcry in 1280x1024 maxed out with HDR and ultra eye candy, either you have bad vision or are lying

People seem to concentrate on the fps counter too much. There are plenty of things that need to be added to games that will make it look much more crisp. Why dont you all take a leaf out of Intels book - the future isnt about frequency its about features/functionality.

CB666 · 14 Jan 2006 at 00:19

fornowagain said:
I found something close to that with some prices, see here

from that link:

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 512MB SLi (550MHz GPU / 1200MHz GDDR-3) (AMD A64 FX-57 2.8GHz)
12,200 3DMarks for $1,439.61 (£815.58)

err totally BS since the memroy is clocked at 1700 by default. and they score much higher than that. my 2x256mb SLI at 560/1450 score over 13k so I dont see how that score could be so low.

also 3dmark05 isnt the best benchmark as the scores are run at a resolution and level of eyecandy well below that at which these cards shine.

fornowagain · 14 Jan 2006 at 02:43

Maybe the original source is full of...beans?

Go read it yourself, its not hard to find.

matt100 · 14 Jan 2006 at 09:22

LoadsaMoney said:
Same here, tried the x3 benchmark, maxed to the hilt 1280x1024 (TFT) average was about 45fps, all they are doing is releasing cards to get one up on each other imo, they are going to run the same games maxed out just like our cards can.

you're not listening!

the price 20"+ screens have dropped to is leading more and more people to require more and more gfx power.

All that seems to happen is that they release a top card, people buy it in sli for willy waving/genuine performance concerns (eg I ended up going for sli because my x850xt just couldn't hack it at 1920x1200) then the next gen or a revision follows shortly afterwards that packs the performance of 2 cards into 1.. and so it continues.

But to say its not neccessary just because you can max out decent games at 1280x1024 is nonsense.. some of us like running at native res

Granted anyone who runs a 19" or lower with any of this stuff from new is probably barking, I would have thought they were better hanging a level back from top of the range.

LoadsaMoney · 14 Jan 2006 at 17:08

Goksly said:
megh - not really. when they max out the res with AA/AF, then comes along Adaptive AA and then HDR. If your PC can give 60fps+ in games like farcry in 1280x1024 maxed out with HDR and ultra eye candy, either you have bad vision or are lying

People seem to concentrate on the fps counter too much. There are plenty of things that need to be added to games that will make it look much more crisp. Why dont you all take a leaf out of Intels book - the future isnt about frequency its about features/functionality.

Would'nt know about FarCry, completed it years ago on the 9800pro before all the HDR etc... came along.

Obviously at higher resolutions your going to need more gfx power, but im at 1280x1024 as having a TFT, and my x1800 XT runs everything fine at that res.

Obviously im just talking about the games ive got/played.

Goksly · 14 Jan 2006 at 17:59

lol but thats my point.... there are things in the pipeline that will make the current top end graphics cards fall to their knees even at resolutions such as 1280x1024...
Turn up everything to high quality, wack up the A-AA/AF to max - mix that with a bit of HDR effect and quickly the fps will drop below 60 during a scene where you are not hiding in a corner looking at a wall

This is why we need knew cards coming out. Yeah, the software monkeys defo aint coding with ultimate performance in mind, but they are still bringing out new developements that are hurting the current and future top end cards

LoadsaMoney · 14 Jan 2006 at 18:14

Who said anything about 60fps, your not one of those "i can't play games at less than 60fps as its a slideshow, jerkathon" brigade are you.

Jimbo Mahoney · 14 Jan 2006 at 18:20

LoadsaMoney said:
Who said anything about 60fps, your not one of those "i can't play games at less than 60fps as its a slideshow, jerkathon" brigade are you.

You say that as if people who don't like playing games below 60fps are bad people...

Anyway, why settle for 30fps, even if you can't tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps (which I find hard to believe)?

kinggost · 14 Jan 2006 at 19:52

Ive just brought 2x xfx 7800gtx ee 256mb now bet they gna come down in price :mad:

HEADRAT · 14 Jan 2006 at 20:04

kinggost said:
Ive just brought 2x xfx 7800gtx ee 256mb now bet they gna come down in price

Thats what you call progress

happens to us all, tis very annoying though!

Goksly · 14 Jan 2006 at 20:31

LoadsaMoney said:
Who said anything about 60fps, your not one of those "i can't play games at less than 60fps as its a slideshow, jerkathon" brigade are you.

No, not really, but FPS particularly feel a lot better above 60. Obviously its down to personal preference, but after having a quick bash on my mates pc which averages at 40fps on HL2.... I defo prefer my rig which is locked at 60fps.
Anyways.... you can direct this thread in any way you want, but the bottom line is, a statement such as "they are going to run the same games maxed out just like our cards can" is wrong... as maxed out should be just that -> games with all eye candy set to max, and I think the next gen will still struggle slightly with stuff like full HDR with AA, so your cards defo cant.

So erm, yeah

LoadsaMoney · 14 Jan 2006 at 20:49

Fair enough.

Goksly · 14 Jan 2006 at 20:50

chaparral · 14 Jan 2006 at 21:06

kinggost said:
Ive just brought 2x xfx 7800gtx ee 256mb now bet they gna come down in price

I saw a 7800gtx for £227 excluding VAT (£267.89 including VAT) yesterday (not at overclockers)..

kinggost · 14 Jan 2006 at 21:23

lol ive allways paid money to these guys because when ever ive had a problem they allways sorted me out. Ive got the money otherwise i wouldnt of paid it any way neva mind

chaparral · 14 Jan 2006 at 23:26

I buy almost all my stuff from overclockers as well..

Super quick service and had no problems with them..