8 PACK MEMORY RANGE GROWING: SAY HELLO TO 8 PACK RIPPED EDITION & 32GB KITS!!!

[Gibbo]

Just placed a new PO for 8 Pack RAM, they could only give me 10% of the volume I requested, less in some cases and all our cost prices pretty much doubled.

The market is getting really crazy, memory prices are rocketing and the demand still keeps increasing.

Team Group 8Pack Edition 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C16 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit @ £289.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Team...00C16-3600MHz-Dual-Channel-Kit-MY-002-8P.html


TDPPD432G3600HC16GDC01, 3600MHz RAM Speed, CAS 16-16-16-38 Timings, 1.20-1.40v VDIMM, Samsung B-Die, Ideal for AMD Ryzen 3000/4000 and Intel Comet Lake 8 Pack Approved, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £289.99 inc VAT.
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Our new cost is higher than our sell price on that kit, once the deal ends Wednesday or stock runs out that kit will be retailing closer to £400

Anyone looking for memory right now should browse and if you find any good deals, SERIOUSLY BUY IT!


I have these good deals, which also end Wednesday:


Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey @ £68.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Team...-3200MHz-Dual-Channel-Kit-Grey-MY-0AK-TG.html


TLZGD416G3200HC16CDC01, 3200MHz RAM Speed, CAS 16-18-18-38 Timings, 1.25-1.35v VDIMM, Ideal for AMD Ryzen 3000/4000 and Intel Comet Lake, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £68.99 inc VAT.
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Patriot Viper Steel 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-35200C19 4400MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS416G440C9K) @ £139.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Patr...Dual-Channel-Kit-PVS416G440C9K-MY-103-PA.html


PVS416G440C9K, 4400MHz RAM Speed, CAS 19-19-19-39 Timings, 1.45v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £139.99 inc VAT.
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Patriot Viper Steel 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS416G360C8K) @ £79.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Patr...Dual-Channel-Kit-PVS416G360C8K-MY-104-PA.html


PVS416G360C8K, 3600MHz RAM Speed, CAS 18-20-20-41 Timings, 1.35v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £79.99 inc VAT.
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Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS432G360C8K) @ £139.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Patr...Dual-Channel-Kit-PVS432G360C8K-MY-107-PA.html


PVS432G360C8K, 3600MHz RAM Speed, CAS 18-20-20-38 Timings, 1.35v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £139.99 inc VAT.
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Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C17 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit @ £79.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/King...00C17-3600MHz-Dual-Channel-Kit-MY-299-KS.html


HX436C17FB3AK2/16, 3600MHz RAM Speed, CAS 17-21-21-38 Timings, 1.35-1.45v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £79.99 inc VAT.
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Kingston HyperX Fury 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C17 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit @ £74.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/King...00C17-3600MHz-Dual-Channel-Kit-MY-29A-KS.html


HX436C17FB3K2/16, 3600MHz RAM Speed, CAS 17-21-21-38 Timings, 1.35-1.45v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £74.99 inc VAT.
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Kingston HyperX Fury RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit @ £149.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/King...00C18-3600MHz-Dual-Channel-Kit-MY-29B-KS.html


HX436C18FB4AK2/32, 3600MHz RAM Speed, CAS 18-22-22-38 Timings, 1.35-1.45v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £149.99 inc VAT.
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Kingston HyperX Fury 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C18 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit @ £139.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/King...00C18-3600MHz-Dual-Channel-Kit-MY-29C-KS.html


HX436C18FB4K2/32, 3600MHz RAM Speed, CAS 18-22-22-38 Timings, 1.35-1.45v VDIMM, Lifetime Warranty with OcUK.
Only £139.99 inc VAT.
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Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 32GB (2x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit @ £149.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Cors...zen-Tuned-DDR4-Memory-Dual-Kit-MY-4CK-CS.html


CMW32GX4M2Z3600C18, 32GB (2x16GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance RGB PRO Black, PC4-28800 (3600), Non-ECC Unbuff, CAS 18, 1.35V, AMD Ryzen Optimised
Only £149.99 inc VAT.
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Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 16GB (2x8GB) 3600 MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4 Memory Dual Kit @ £128.99 inc VAT https://www.overclockers.co.uk/Cors...zen-Tuned-DDR4-Memory-Dual-Kit-MY-4C1-CS.html


16GB (2x8GB) Corsair DDR4 Vengeance RGB PRO Black, PC4-28800 (3600), Non-ECC Unbuff, CAS 18, 1.35V, AMD Ryzen Optimised
Only £128.99 inc VAT.
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The above Kingston kits, our cost is now beyond what were selling them for, prices are rocketing, so grab them whilst you can as all prices will be up later this week guys!

 

[Joxeon]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but do we know if the "bad B-die" are equally as happy with higher voltages to the B-die we are more familiar with?

All a bad bin will mean is it needs more voltage to hit a certain performance level, I doubt it will make them more likely to fail at 1.5v vs a good bin else it would not be that the general consensus that is 1.5v is safe for B-die as many would have had failing kits.

 

[opethdisciple]

So I have a question... Been running my ram at 1.47v for a good year and everything has been fine.

Install 3080 FE in a very well ventilated case with chilly ambient temperatures due to winter and suddenly it seems I am getting ram instability possibly caused by overheating.

My question is where does that leave ram kits such as the 8 Pack 3600MHz CL14 which are 1.45v out if the box. Would I still get overheating issues with this kit?

(I've been overclocking my 3200MHz at 1.47v)

 

[Joxeon]

So I have a question... Been running my ram at 1.47v for a good year and everything has been fine.

Install 3080 FE in a very well ventilated case with chilly ambient temperatures due to winter and suddenly it seems I am getting ram instability possibly caused by overheating.

My question is where does that leave ram kits such as the 8 Pack 3600MHz CL14 which are 1.45v out if the box. Would I still get overheating issues with this kit?

(I've been overclocking my 3200MHz at 1.47v)

It's not only the voltage but the timings, kind of like with a CPU where if you set 1.3v @4.2 it will run cooler than 1.3 at 4.5 etc

 

[opethdisciple]

It's not only the voltage but the timings, kind of like with a CPU where if you set 1.3v @4.2 it will run cooler than 1.3 at 4.5 etc

That makes some sense sure.

But my 3600MHz timings at 1.47v where very similar to the primary docp timings the 8 Pack cl14 sticks come with.

I was running 14,15,15,15,30 at 1.47v.

The. 8 Pack ram is 14,15,15,15,35 at 1.45v

Unless the secondary timings are radically different I can't see much of a difference between my timings and the docp timings the 8 Pack ram comes with.

So still expect much of a difference in stability in light of temperatures?

 

[Joxeon]

That makes some sense sure.

But my 3600MHz timings at 1.47v where very similar to the primary docp timings the 8 Pack cl14 sticks come with.

I was running 14,15,15,15,30 at 1.47v.

The. 8 Pack ram is 14,15,15,15,35 at 1.45v

Unless the secondary timings are radically different I can't see much of a difference between my timings and the docp timings the 8 Pack ram comes with.

So still expect much of a difference in stability in light of temperatures?

I'd imagen the secondary timings are quite a bit different, even a single timing can make a difference to temps.

 

[bulldog147]

I did try CAS 16-18-18-36 Timings 1.395v on AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G on Asus B550 Gaming Plus but was freeze on bios and will not post pass. I have to be very quick to go back to default setting on the bios before it freeze again must be crappy memory ram kits

 

[Stu]

That makes some sense sure.

But my 3600MHz timings at 1.47v where very similar to the primary docp timings the 8 Pack cl14 sticks come with.

I was running 14,15,15,15,30 at 1.47v.

The. 8 Pack ram is 14,15,15,15,35 at 1.45v

Unless the secondary timings are radically different I can't see much of a difference between my timings and the docp timings the 8 Pack ram comes with.

So still expect much of a difference in stability in light of temperatures?

Just to clarify, do you have the normal 3200 CL14 sticks, and you are trying to run them like RIPPED 3600 CL14 sticks? I was under the impression that the RIPPED kits were higher binned, not only faster because of the voltage bump.

 

[bulldog147]

I think it misleads for Corsair to adverts DOCP with CAS 16-18-18-36 Timings 1.350v as it come with kits because it never work? Do u think I should I sent it back? But it still work with manual (with DOCP disabled) and use manual with 3200MHz memory speed but leave timing on auto but set dram voltages at 1.350v as it more stable and can boot up but with slower timing at CAS 22-22-23-53 for now.

Which one more important? Timing or MHz speed?

 

[opethdisciple]

Just to clarify, do you have the normal 3200 CL14 sticks, and you are trying to run them like RIPPED 3600 CL14 sticks? I was under the impression that the RIPPED kits were higher binned, not only faster because of the voltage bump.

Yes. I have been running them at faster timings than the ripped at 1.47v for a good year.

I install my 3080 and it all goes pear shaped.

Blue screens, freezes and ctd.

I left everything on stock last night as a test to rule out mobo and gpu and gamed for about 3rhs with no issues.

Another session or two needed to be sure I don't have a psu or GPU issue.

Then I can blame the ram overheating.

 

[opethdisciple]

I'd imagen the secondary timings are quite a bit different, even a single timing can make a difference to temps.

I've been running the fast profile from the dram calc.

The only big difference I can see between the safe and the fast is the trfc is up from 288 to something like 350.

I gave up trying this profile as I assumed as the volts where still going to be similar to before it would still get too hot.

Reckon it's worth a try again using safe to see if it makes any difference?

I still reckon voltage wise it will be 1.45v -1.47v.

 

[Stu]

Igor labs reported the heat from a 3080 caused his system to go from stable to unstable, so your experience appears to match this.

Regarding your question about the RIPPED kits that are 1.45v out of the box, I'm suggesting that they might cope better with the heat because they are higher binned, and not to expect your kit to cope similarly... just a theory, but not sure.

 

[bulldog147]

Managed to get stable Samsung @ CAS 16-18-18-36 Timings but need 1.455v on AMD Ryzen 7 Pro 4750G

 

[Guest2]

Igor labs reported the heat from a 3080 caused his system to go from stable to unstable, so your experience appears to match this.

Regarding your question about the RIPPED kits that are 1.45v out of the box, I'm suggesting that they might cope better with the heat because they are higher binned, and not to expect your kit to cope similarly... just a theory, but not sure.

Do you have the video of the Igor labs reporting?

JayzTwoCents reported the opposite, that the 3080 lowers CPU temperatures due to increased airflow over the CPU.

Im running my 3080 with 8 pack team group RAM at 1.5V DDR3800, CAS14, IF1900. No issues running the Extreme1 anta profile in TestMem5 v0.12

 

[Stu]

Do you have the video of the Igor labs reporting?

JayzTwoCents reported the opposite, that the 3080 lowers CPU temperatures due to increased airflow over the CPU.

Im running my 3080 with 8 pack team group RAM at 1.5V DDR3800, CAS14, IF1900. No issues running the Extreme1 anta profile in TestMem5 v0.12

https://www.igorslab.de/en/does-the...r4-3800-cl14-2x-16gb-put-through-its-paces/3/

By the way, according to JEDEC DDR4 is specified with an operating temperature of up to 85°C, so there is no danger for the longevity of the components. Only if you push your RAM to the performance maximum, a few Kelvin more or less above the room or case temperature can make a difference. Therefore, here again the tip: If you test RAM for 24/7 stability, do this in the actual installation, e.g. in the case with closed side panel, and with load on GPU and CPU to simulate the heating of the surrounding air. For example, I’ve had the case where my RAM was stable overnight while only the TM5 was running, but after 30 minutes of gaming the graphics card generated so much excess heat that the RAM became too warm and thus unstable.

The FE may be different from AIB cards regarding airflow.

 

[Guest2]

https://www.igorslab.de/en/does-the...r4-3800-cl14-2x-16gb-put-through-its-paces/3/



The FE may be different from AIB cards regarding airflow.

Thanks. Yeh, the JayzTwoCents report was on the FE cards specifically (or i guess all blower cards) One of the reasons for me getting the FE was that I like the heat to build up outside my case, not inside on the RAM and CPU

 

[alec]

Igors example is not 3080FE cooler vs other GPU coolers, its GPU loaded vs idle, which is 300W+ heat dumped in the case difference. Obviously will make things toastier for memory

 

[Awahwah]

As @Guest2 mentioned, no problems with my setup either. I have temp probes on the ram heatsinks, they do get toasty but below 44°. Like Guest I'm putting 1.5v into them.

For testing, I lowered the oc and stuck 1.35v into them, same temps recorded by the probes. So I feel case airflow is key.

The main ram problem I have is seeing the 3090's hit 90°. By all accounts that is normal gee!.

 

[Guest2]

As @Guest2 mentioned, no problems with my setup either. I have temp probes on the ram heatsinks, they do get toasty but below 44°. Like Guest I'm putting 1.5v into them.

For testing, I lowered the oc and stuck 1.35v into them, same temps recorded by the probes. So I feel case airflow is key.

The main ram problem I have is seeing the 3090's hit 90°. By all accounts that is normal gee!.

I'm sure i measured the temp with a cheapo laser temp sensor a while back when I was testing 1.5V on them. It won't be 100% accurate but better than nothing.
Now there's a 3080 FE in there i'm going to guess at the temp being lower than before if anything

edit - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/threads/ram-temperatures-with-testing.18910859/

 

[opethdisciple]

Well... I've been playing this week with my ram. Since installing my 3080 my ram overclock isnt stable at the CL14 speeds I have been running it at. And those speeds are the second fastest profile I was using since around May last year.

Both where stable, but since 3080 FE was installed 2 weeks ago I have had issues.

I have tested a CL16 profile at 1.35v and the PC was fine so I am confident to say it's not my PSU or GPU that is the problem.

I've tried a few alternative CL14 tweaks to see if it would work like loosing trfc etc but still no dice.

Considering I read above some of you are running 1.5v I might actually try that my self.

I'm at 1.47v. I'm still not sure if my issue is heat related in which case putting more volts through the ram is hardly going to help, but I have to try it.

I've got used to running my ram at 3600MHz CL14 so it just doesn't sit right running it at CL16 3600MHz.