8 PACK MEMORY RANGE GROWING: SAY HELLO TO 8 PACK RIPPED EDITION & 32GB KITS!!!

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a giant octopuss prowling the South China Sea

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Took this last week! :D

I ordered some F4-3600C16D-32GTZN for 240 quid (probably similar bin to 8Pack but I'll gladly pay the slight extra for temp sensors). Won't be able to test it till other parts come in. Can also snap up the F4-3600C14D-32GTZR for £304 including import fees which for the best XMP dual rank profile on Ryzen isn't bad in the current climate. Not as many octopus I guess!
 
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I ordered some F4-3600C16D-32GTZN for 240 quid (probably similar bin to 8Pack but I'll gladly pay the slight extra for temp sensors). Won't be able to test it till other parts come in. Can also snap up the F4-3600C14D-32GTZR for £304 including import fees which for the best XMP dual rank profile on Ryzen isn't bad in the current climate. Not as many octopus I guess!

Cheaper than 8Pack right now, temp sensor and some spiffing RGB... sound choice right now.
 
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So I just got some 32GB 8 Packs 16x2 with my 5900x and X570 MSI Unity and looking to see what this will do, I managed to get my crappy Corsair Micron 3200 to 3800 c16-18-18-36 in quad channel on my first gen Threadripper and it was a pain to get stable, a sure this kit will be easier to OC on this platform. Wish me luck :D
 
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Can anyone tell me if the 8Pack kits have a temperatures sensor on them? Also are the 3600C16 and 3200C14 exactly the same just with different xmp profiles? Thanks!
 
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essentially 2.5T
well it is easy to demonstrate that GDM on is FASTER than 2T GDM off, so I don't care what it essentially is.

from that twitter thread
2T GDM off is more stable and higher performance for me , if you know how to configure it
Very strange. Comparing unstable settings (more stable means both sides of comparison are unstable). And to run 2T you need more configuring?
Why not compare apples to apples, when only thing you change is 2T vs GDM on?
 
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I know there will be people with MSI boards checking this thread so I'll ask here. It wasn't something I looked at when deciding on a board initially. One of those things you only notice until you actually have the board.

While waiting for my G. SKill 32GB kit I got some standard 16GB Corsair 3600 so I could test the system. I have the B550 Unify on 1.2.0.1 AGESA.

The DDR voltage control is strange. If you enable XMP or even specifically put in 1.350v it always states 1.352v. Here's the thing. If you open Ryzen Master that states the voltage is 1.36v... quite a difference.

hwinfo64 does state 1.352v but it's not a constant 1.352v (it is most of the time) but the maximum column gave me 1.356v. Now I know it's pretty hard to constantly regulate a static voltage to a component but this seems pretty weird especially given Ryzen Master reading. Checking YouTube the over voltage seems to be normal.

https://i.imgur.com/KN8FKCk.png (what I experience)
https://i.imgur.com/iXw7vKd.png (B450)
https://i.imgur.com/gtBQVLC.png (overclocker bios on x570 unify, wants 1.50v and it's giving him 1.536v....)
https://i.imgur.com/VGTCjG1.png (Buildzoid's X570 Tomahawk video)

Basically can anyone else confirm this behavior in BIOS and that Ryzen Master gives different readings? I don't know if MSI is supplying vddio to ryzen master from another value that is not just a straight plug reading from the value it should be sending.
 
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I know there will be people with MSI boards checking this thread so I'll ask here. It wasn't something I looked at when deciding on a board initially. One of those things you only notice until you actually have the board.

While waiting for my G. SKill 32GB kit I got some standard 16GB Corsair 3600 so I could test the system. I have the B550 Unify on 1.2.0.1 AGESA.

The DDR voltage control is strange. If you enable XMP or even specifically put in 1.350v it always states 1.352v. Here's the thing. If you open Ryzen Master that states the voltage is 1.36v... quite a difference.

hwinfo64 does state 1.352v but it's not a constant 1.352v (it is most of the time) but the maximum column gave me 1.356v. Now I know it's pretty hard to constantly regulate a static voltage to a component but this seems pretty weird especially given Ryzen Master reading. Checking YouTube the over voltage seems to be normal.

https://i.imgur.com/KN8FKCk.png (what I experience)
https://i.imgur.com/iXw7vKd.png (B450)
https://i.imgur.com/gtBQVLC.png (overclocker bios on x570 unify, wants 1.50v and it's giving him 1.536v....)
https://i.imgur.com/VGTCjG1.png (Buildzoid's X570 Tomahawk video)

Basically can anyone else confirm this behavior in BIOS and that Ryzen Master gives different readings? I don't know if MSI is supplying vddio to ryzen master from another value that is not just a straight plug reading from the value it should be sending.

I will check when I get home and upload the results. my MSI Unify X570 has the teamgroup 16GBx2 sticks running at 1.5v myself.
 
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Sorry I took so long to answer back was installing waterblock on my GPU and took a while anyway in bios it reports that my RAM is at 1.52v with a manual set to 1.5v by the way this are the settings in my RAM, am not on the latest Beta bios I had to downgrade when I changed my monitor, thats a different story...

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@Rebootcomputa88 Thanks. It does seem normal the more I looked around. I just thought that top tier boards like the X570 Unify or the B550 Unify that if you set 1.500v you should be getting 1.506v or maybe 1.510v at max in deviation. Going to 1.520v seems pretty ridiculous but I don't really have other boards to compare it too.

Also if you can do me a favor (back up your bios profile to usb first to save time dialing your oc back in) set the board back to default operation and only set xmp profile 1, boot into windows and screenshot me your zentimings window. Then change to profile 2 (if the RAM has it) and screenshot me that. I want to check something with the voltage reporting.
 
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Daft question but I need to ask it.

Are the CL14 3600 8 Pack sticks just overclocked 3200MHz 8 Pack sticks (binned) or are they actually something entirely different.

Like better voltage regulators or something to handle 1.45v etc?

I'm thinking of picking some up.

The other issue I have is my RTX 3080. Since I installed that my previous CL14 3600MHz ram overclock is completely unstable and I have been told it could be heat by forum members.

I have a good case for airflow... so do we think heat will affect the 8 Pack CL14 3600MHz kits too at DOCP?
 
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At the time the general view was they were exactly the same, simply binned and a different profile added. I can run my 16 at that spec with the voltage bump those 14 specify, although i don't think I quite reached some of the secondaries. But I don't.
 
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