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80ºC too hot for a P4?

Discussion in 'CPUs' started by Naffa, 18 Jun 2006.

  1. Naffa

    Capodecina

    Joined: 4 Sep 2005

    Posts: 11,455

    Location: Bristol

    Just wondering if 80ºC is a tad hot for a pre built-P4 pc. I'm pretty sure there will be next to no thermal compound left on the di and the hsf needs sorting.. But this is getting to the extreme in terms of heat surely?
     
  2. Raikiri

    Capodecina

    Joined: 5 Jul 2005

    Posts: 17,780

    Location: Brighton

    Yeah it is too hot, google throttlewatch and see if it is throttling.

    This idle :eek: or load?
     
  3. Dolph

    Man of Honour

    Joined: 17 Oct 2002

    Posts: 49,343

    Location: Plymouth

    It's getting very close to thermal throttling levels, so yes, I would definitely say it's too hot.

    IIRC a P4 throttles at 85oC
     
  4. Naffa

    Capodecina

    Joined: 4 Sep 2005

    Posts: 11,455

    Location: Bristol

    Christ.. I think it's skt478.. Is that right? The temp was measured in bios after a restart. All the pc was doing before the restart was browsing the internet..
     
  5. RandomTom

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 28 Sep 2004

    Posts: 8,541

    My p4 2.8 idles at around 30-35 so yes that sounds pretty intense - sort it out! :eek:
     
  6. jbloggs

    Soldato

    Joined: 4 Sep 2005

    Posts: 6,961

    Location: NI

    naffa:

    Certainly is....and then some!

    I have both Northwood & Prescott CPUs (3.4 & 3.2 respectively), and they both idle around 35C or lower. :)
     
  7. Naffa

    Capodecina

    Joined: 4 Sep 2005

    Posts: 11,455

    Location: Bristol

    Lol, just as I thought. It has a ridiculous fan guard which I'll be removing, I'll be placing an extractor fan on the back and re-seating the CPU in some fresh thermal compound. If the crazilly high temps persist then I'll be back for help from the trusy OcUK Forums.
     
  8. lucifersam

    Gangster

    Joined: 18 May 2006

    Posts: 474

    Location: Somewhere South

    my P4E 3.2 prescott idles at 50 and runs flat at 70ish and that is the hottest running CPU ever to hit the market as the LGA775s were a bit more efficient, but 80 is too high but still within warranty!
     
  9. Pottsey

    Mobster

    Joined: 29 May 2006

    Posts: 4,556

    There is a chance your temp sensor is faulty. Mine reports my temp as about 20c higher then it is and its hit 104c+ before.

    Load up throttle watch and see if it goes off at 80c. If its not throttling its ok and its your temp sensor that’s wrong. Also your bios should how the temps a little higher then in windows.
     
    Last edited: 19 Jun 2006
  10. Mikey1280

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 1 Jan 2006

    Posts: 1,526

    Location: South East London

    If the chip uses the sensor to establish whether it needs to throttle, then if the sensor is faulty it will throttle at 80 on the sensor, not the real 80 degrees.
     
  11. axe

    Banned

    Joined: 1 May 2006

    Posts: 600

    Mine socket 478 Northwood 3.0ghz HT runs at 55 idle but goes all the way up to 79 on Load So thers sometihng wrong with mine as well
     
  12. Abz

    Hitman

    Joined: 27 Jul 2004

    Posts: 678

    Location: London

    Doesnt it depent on the cooling fan and case temp? :confused:

    Try to leave the case open and see what happens, see if the temp drops.
     
    Last edited: 19 Jun 2006
  13. -<=[Tw18]=>-

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 19 Oct 2002

    Posts: 1,546

    Location: Jersey C.I.

    humm, my prescoot 3Ghz currently ideas 50ish and throttles at 70c's!! so 80 i'm guessing is cooking!!!!
     
  14. Sir Random

    Mobster

    Joined: 4 Aug 2003

    Posts: 2,636

    Location: Wicklow, Ireland

    Is it a Dell PC? A lot of Dells have a plastic shroud around the heatsink which ducts air to an exhaust fan at the rear of the case.

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    If the shroud is damaged or not fitted correctly, there may be no airflow over the heatsink which would explain the 80c.
     
  15. Phill4321

    Hitman

    Joined: 13 Oct 2005

    Posts: 748

    Mine idles at 55-60c and reaches 70c whilst in games, but I also think theres something wrong with it. But then again aslong as everything runs okay I dont really care.
     
  16. Bundles

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 18 Jan 2003

    Posts: 5,384

    Location: Hatton


    Next to spot on, according to throttlwatch and my mobbo my chip throttles at 87c.

    But i would hazard a guess that proper throttling temp is 85c and the extra 2c comes from my mobbo, lol.
     
  17. kleox64

    Gangster

    Joined: 28 Jul 2005

    Posts: 404

    anything below a prescot will have approx 70C throttle point, regardless of what throttlewatch displays. Remove the HSF and power the machine on, look in the BIOS and your temp should be pretty much 70C.
     
  18. Bundles

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 18 Jan 2003

    Posts: 5,384

    Location: Hatton

    Well said, considering mines IS a prescott.