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907,511km (563,924 Mile) Mercedes. (52 Plate)

Discussion in 'Motors' started by Scania, 4 Aug 2007.

  1. helpimcrap

    Capodecina

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    just out of interest do any of you lorry drivers refuse to drive units other than the main fleet. ie if you have purely scanias, but then you have hire units like mercs or DAF, would you refuse to drive them as you dont know the truck.

    i recently had this when someone refused to take a lorry out due to it being a different make and he wasnt trained. i asked him if he could only drive mondeos and not BMWs.. his reply 'no', so i told him 'well whats the difference then? its got wheels, a gearstick and pedals.... get on with it.'

    do any of you guys get like this? its happened on more than one occasion. :confused:
     
  2. laissez-faire

    Mobster

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    It is frankly all about Engineering. For example, most road cars are engineered to last for about 100'000 miles before anything major goes wrong. I had a list somewhere that I'll dig out, luxury cars tending to last longer.

    Trucks and coaches are simply engineered to last longer. Heavier duty components are used etc. It is perfectly possible to build a car that will last a million miles but it simply isn't cost effective to do that.

    I know for a fact that when National express order a new coach they tell Volvo that they want it to last for 750'000 miles. In that time National Express expect to fit 2 new engines to it and reupholster it twice. If NE wanted to pay more Volvo could build a coach that would last longer, but typically I believe the coaches get sold on at 750k miles.
     
  3. laissez-faire

    Mobster

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    Life expectancies of luxury cars:

    Overall Life Expectancy

    Years Miles Vehicle
    25.80 241,000 Volkswagen Phaeton
    20.63 202,000 Audi allroad quattro
    19.85 256,000 M-Benz E class
    18.44 223,000 Lexus LS 430
    18.39 219,000 Lincoln Town Car
    18.14 216,000 Cadillac STS
    16.33 207,000 BMW 5 Series
    16.09 202,000 Volvo 80 series
    15.50 203,000 Cadillac DeVille
    15.36 201,000 Infiniti Q45
    15.35 181,000 Lexus GS 430
    14.72 189,000 Audi A6
    14.53 190,000 Cadillac DTS
    13.85 165,000 Jaguar S-Type
    13.04 164,000 Acura RL
    12.30 162,000 Cadillac Seville
    12.08 143,000 BMW M3
    10.80 126,000 Infiniti M45
    10.31 131,000 Lexus GS 300

    15.87 190,579 Total Luxury Car

    14.79 185,000 Volvo 70 series
    14.63 179,000 Mercury Zephyr
    14.18 176,000 BMW 330
    13.95 172,000 Lexus ES 330
    13.93 182,000 Acura CL
    13.69 169,000 Jaguar X-Type
    13.47 171,000 Acura TL
    13.44 171,000 M-Benz C class
    13.42 179,000 Buick Park Avenue
    13.31 171,000 BMW 325
    13.11 162,000 Lexus IS 300
    13.06 172,000 Infiniti G35
    12.23 160,000 Cadillac CTS
    12.05 162,000 Saab 9-5
    12.04 156,000 Lincoln LS
    11.99 161,000 Volvo 60 series

    13.33 170,500 Total Near Luxury Cars

    21.94 251,000 M-Benz S class
    19.12 214,000 Audi A8
    17.44 201,000 BMW 7 Series
    13.89 162,000 Jaguar XJ
    13.85 162,000 Maserati Maserati

    17.25 198,000 Total Premium Cars

    15.52 188,000 Infiniti I30/I35
    15.05 193,000 Nissan Maxima
    14.94 183,000 Dodge Magnum
    14.36 182,000 Saab 9-3
    14.30 192,000 Volkswagen Passat
    13.80 192,000 Chrysler 300/300M
    13.61 169,000 Acura TSX
    13.20 172,000 Dodge Charger
    12.86 162,000 Volvo 40 series
    12.76 171,000 Audi S4
    12.61 171,000 Saab 9-2
    12.43 152,000 Buick Regal
    12.39 151,000 Mitsubishi Diamante
    12.32 172,000 Ford Five Hundred
    12.10 165,000 Buick LaCrosse
    12.10 169,000 Audi A4
    11.35 152,000 Mercury Montego
    10.00 136,000 Mazda Millenia

    13.09 170,667 Total Premium Mid-Range

    21.91 237,000 M-Benz CLS class
    16.85 191,000 M-Benz CLK class
    16.82 171,000 Ford Thunderbird
    15.42 177,000 BMW Z8
    13.85 162,000 Chevrolet Corvette
    13.53 147,000 BMW Z4
    13.28 159,000 M-Benz SLK class
    13.25 157,000 Porsche Boxster
    12.37 141,000 Audi TT
    10.99 131,000 Chrysler Crossfire

    14.83 167,300 Total Premium Sporty Cars

    34.96 379,000 Hummer H1
    28.11 301,000 Toyota Land Cruiser
    23.15 239,000 Cadillac Escalade
    22.83 237,000 M-Benz G class
    22.82 234,000 Cadillac Escalade ESV
    19.51 213,000 Lexus LX 470
    19.19 206,000 Land Rover Range Rvr
    18.93 186,000 Volkswagen Touareg
    18.44 197,000 Hummer H2
    18.14 193,000 Porsche Cayenne
    18.00 201,000 Lincoln Navigator

    22.19 235,091 Total Premium SUV

    15.82 229,000 Volvo XC90
    15.15 195,000 Acura MDX
    14.39 215,000 M-Benz M class
    14.11 192,000 Lexus RX330
    13.88 177,000 Infiniti FX45
    12.59 166,000 BMW X5
    12.54 164,000 M-Benz R class
    12.46 173,000 Infiniti FX35
    12.26 167,000 BMW X3
    11.49 171,000 Cadillac SRX
    11.31 156,000 Volvo 50 series

    13.27 182,273 Total Premium Sportwagons

    24.43 271,000 Bentley Bentley
    24.23 273,000 Rolls-Royce All
    23.04 257,000 Maybach All
    16.33 186,000 Porsche Carrera GT
    13.87 156,000 Aston Martin All
    10.94 121,000 Lamborghini All
    10.59 119,000 Ferrar Ferrari
    10.31 116,000 Ford GT

    16.72 187,375 Total Ultra Luxury

    16.37 222,000 Land Rover LR3
    15.34 206,000 Land Rover Range Rover Sport
    15.28 207,000 Hummer H3
    14.70 203,000 Land Rover Discovery
    14.32 202,000 GMC Envoy
    13.28 191,000 Lincoln Aviator
    12.59 176,000 Buick Rainier
    12.53 177,000 Lexus GX 470
    12.29 171,000 Mercury Mountaineer
    10.81 143,000 Saab 9-7X
    10.58 151,000 Infiniti QX4
    10.42 147,000 Subaru B9 Tribeca

    13.21 183,000 Total Upper Mid-Range SUV

    19.55 188,000 M-Benz CL class
    18.70 192,000 Acura NSX
    17.29 188,000 Jaguar XK
    16.06 164,000 Cadillac XLR
    15.82 173,000 BMW 6 Series
    15.61 164,000 Porsche 911 Carrera
    15.56 165,000 M-Benz SC 430
    15.16 169,000 M-Benz SL Coupe/Roadster
    13.27 151,000 Porsche 911 Carrera 4
    11.50 121,000 Lotus Lotus
    10.42 118,000 Dodge Viper

    15.36 163,000 Total Upper Premium Sportscars
     
  4. [TW]Fox

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    Those figures are pretty useless without a source or indication of how they came about those figures.
     
  5. Butters

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    I don't see the difference between some of those interior shots and a 2001 on C class in all honesty

    Complete gash :o
     
  6. laissez-faire

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    Somehow I knew you, and you in particular, would say that exact thing. I got emailed them by an engineering student who was using them in some report. No idea where they came from !
     
  7. Scania

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    You would'nt want to get into a Scania fitted with "Opticruise" transmission after driving a stock box with twin splitters - you would'nt have a clue!

    I've had fun with the Mercedes Actros's electronic box, I was trained on an earlier model (52 plate) the 54 plate I'm driving operates very differently! :o I spent an hour reading the manual on the Severn View services last night, did'nt get any further complaints from the gearbox (it won't give you your required gear if you don't time the clutch / gear selection button press well enough) after that! :D

    Most are too proud to admit they hav'nt driven a given 'box (its not the truck itself thats the problem) you notice them slipping the clutch like crazy to get it to pull away in high range! :D

    In my days of being a transport supervisor (in the office) any driver that refused to drive something simply on make (although lack of training on a gearbox is a valid reason imo) was shown the door.
     
    Last edited: 7 Aug 2007
  8. Scania

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    Update.

    As I don't want the car, it'll be disposed of by the company.

    He was going to buy it for me if I wanted it, for me to buy it subsequently off him.

    I've decided to give this one a miss, its not pretty.
     
  9. Scania

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    If they wanted a coach to last longer,they'd just order one from Scania. ;) :D
     
  10. spaz

    Wise Guy

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    Ever since this thread I've seen loads of Culina Logistics lorries...swear I'd never seen any before.

    Didn't happen to be delivering around the MK area in the past few days have you?
     
  11. Scania

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    No, but Culina have a depot in Milton Keynes hence you seeing lots of 'em. ;)

    They also have depots @ Stafford & Market Drayton. :)

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    Culinas Website.
     
    Last edited: 10 Aug 2007
  12. The_Dark_Side

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    If they're only getting 250k miles from an engine then either they are not being serviced properly or they're driven by jelly heads.
     
  13. Scania

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    After reading that, I had to mention Scanias! :D

    Shocked if that 250k figure is true! :eek:
     
  14. Fido McNasty

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    I think perhaps the word missing out of this equation is `average' life expectancy.

    And I mean in so far as youre average motor may do a million miles or more in the right conditions, properly serviced etc with quality parts and driven correctly. Some may only last 100k if `abused' or not serviced appropriately. Universally true of any vehicle really.
     
  15. Phil W

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    These trucks run pretty much 24/7. They come into the yard, fuel up, go through the wash, we tip the pallets off them then they park up and minutes later the next driver who shares it walks in and goes out on a run.

    I have no idea why culina don't expand, they always have Agency and other companies doing runs for them.

    And now i know why you all roll in at the same time and make my job a pain in the arse, its because you all park in laybys ;)

    Phil
     
  16. MNuTz

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    Lay-bys and cafe's the great escape for the lorry driver, trust me mate, ive worked in 4 different despatch companies, drivers never turn up on time, they all want loading first and they will lie through their teeth to get out asap. :)

    Culina wont expand due to the extra running costs of the lorries, plus, a lot of the stuff that the food industry sends out will go from your depot to that haulage companies main hub and then it will be split and put onto existing routes. It works out cheaper that way.

    Not to mention the logistical side of it, its easier for them to phone up an outside haulier and say ive 26 pallets that need picking up for these depots and let them sort it than try to do it yourself :)
     
  17. Phil W

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    I wouldnt speak too soon mate, when Muller expand on the other side of the bypass i can pretty much gurantee Culina will have a setup there. 16 bays (which we currently have) is just not enough.

    O/T but did you know Culina is owned by Muller, and its Culina is his wifes name ;)
     
  18. Scania

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    Planning permission has been granted, but, the planned expansion @ Haverhill is going to put Market Drayton on hold for a while.

    I would hazzard a guess Culina use agency drivers (and other staff) simply to fit with the given workload.

    Considering they have only 16 bays at Market drayton, they do very well! - I've worked for companys with much larger setups, but, don't have a clue about planning & utilisation of resources.

    From what I've seen of Culinas operation, they are well on the ball. :cool:

    Culina being in the Muller group,I did know. I did'nt know about the name though! :)
     
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  19. MNuTz

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    Thats actually really ****** me off!!!

    I thought planning permission was denied? So the first thing you see when you drive into market drayton is that god damn ugly factory??

    Personally, im getting out of the despatch games as soon as I can find a decent job that pays what im earning now.

    And i did know the name thing though.
     
    Last edited: 14 Aug 2007
  20. Scania

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    Back to how it was when they first built the Market Drayton site then! (don't know if you recall that far back mate)

    As far as the planning permission is concerned, I heard it today whilst chatting to some of the workers @ Market Drayton.