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A return to form: Say hello to Banana MK2, the Italian Prancing Horse!

Discussion in 'Motors' started by Gibbo, 20 Feb 2019.

  1. Gibbo

    Commissario

    Joined: 17 Oct 2002

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    Location: OcUK HQ

    Hi there


    Most of course know that I've made this move but for those who don't follow my SVR ownership thread the SVR will almost certainly be sold by the weekend and if not sold shall be traded in.

    I've being test driving numerous Huracans and 458's, Mclaren 570S was also a firm favourite but purely ruled out at these stages simply due to the huge depreciation they are facing, even a 720S was considered but again the levels of depreciation are simply frightening, plus Mclaren due sound not so special and do have a lot of reliability issues. Plus nothing is selling, which says prices will drop like a stone.

    So I drove a Huracan and its outright pace and performance was nothing short of staggering, it is a properly fast car than can deploy all 600 horsepower plus even in adverse condition, but even in low grip conditions its ability was so good there was no real feel of engagement, it was simply too easy, to go too fast making it lack engagement at legal speeds. However the looks were outrageous good, the sound was phenomenal and it felt truly special, I also drove an LP580-2 and though the front-end was a bit better it was still felt very safe and just lacking engagement, it is great cars are so capable, so fast, but where is the fun if the car at 80mph down a back road just feels slow and to feel excited you have to truly go insanely fast, I still feel I will end up in a Huracan in the future as its a properly special car, but they seem to losing money each month, nothing as outrageous as Mclarens but they are still depreciating though I can't see them ever under 100k except for very high mileage examples, also watching cars for months only the LP580-2's seem to be the ones actually selling.

    I then drove a 458, the car felt more bespoke, the interior was a masterpiece and so focused about driving, shortly afterwards and I don't know if true but Michael Schumacher played a big role in the cars design, hence a driver focused interior, the LED's on the steering wheel work so well, your eyes are literally never off the road as you simply have no need to monitor rev counter etc, just use the LED's which light up at 5k, 6k, 7k, 8k and 5th and last LED at 9k to prompt the gear change.

    The sound was so loud in the cabin in race mode it felt like something very special and had a real old school F1 pitch as the revs built to 9000rpm, very addictive and the gear shift firm and brutally fast. I was flying down country lanes, it felt like I was doing 80-100mph, looking down on the speedo and I was only at 50-70mph, the car feels insanely fast, when your not going fast, it reminded me of driving a 911 GT3, it is so precise and so full of feel but with the advantage of you not needing to rev it out, I found myself short changing as early as 5-6k because of the incredible sound and the engine develops fantastic torque so the rev range is pretty strong from as low as 2000rpm and screams all the way too 9000rpm.

    After this drive my heart was set on a 458, in either black, yellow or maybe red. So I drove some more as Ferrari made quite a lot of updates post 2012 which I could certainly feel. In short pre 2012 cars sound better, louder, pops, gurgles etc, have a scary brake pedal (very long), the gear box is more brutal in race mode at full throttle upshifts but very smooth all other times and has a higher risk of failure and the suspension supposedly not as capable on limit. Post 2012 cars had a different engine map, so quieter, the brake pedal is more confidence inspiring, the gearbox was updated to include inertia shift for artificial thumps and faster acceleration, thus more reliable but not quite as engaging when pushing hard in race mode and the mag ride suspension gained more sensors to further improve handling. I could certainly feel them all, but the brake pedal is most noticeable and certainly very preferential on newer cars, but in fairness no matter the year, buying on spec and price is more important as these cars are just an event to drive.

    So after driving a few and all seem to have their niggles I decided to drive a car I'd being eyeing up for a while but dismissed as I was trying to limit my budget but it was simply the cleanest and best optioned car, plus newest. I drove it and well I decided to buy it! :D

    Of course 458's also have best residuals as well generally due to not only being the last NA Ferrari but heralded by many as the best Ferrari ever made, they are also incredible lookers and supposedly pretty bullit proof too.

    Ferrari also had other major advantages over a Huracan which is a 2yr warranty on any car purchased from Ferrari and servicing is remarkably cheap at £900 for a minor and £1200 for a major and servicing is once per year or 10k miles and as the car I've purchased is a 2014 car the next three services are free of charge as another major update on post 2012 cars was they all came with 7yr service packs.

    Enough babbling, let some pictures do the talking:


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    So its a 2014 car, 14,500 miles, 2 owners and has very desirable options such as carbon bucket seats, yellow stitching, alcantara interior, satnav, tracker, shields, forged wheels, full carbon interior race package, front and rear parking sensors, full service history etc.

    I was able to gain some discount simply because the car has worn ceramics with a rough surface due to the car doing several track days, mainly Donnington but there is a chance I can repair these with special uprated pads which are designed to do so and several owners report them working, worse case I can fit a full set of the superior surface transform ceramic disc.

    The plan is to enjoy the car and drive it almost daily, so yes for sure in 2-3yr with 30-40k miles its going to worth less, unless 458 values really explode and as my car is in the extremely rare and rather expensive option Giallo Triplo Strato paint which is a triple layer paint full of pearl effect making it far nicer than the typical flat Yellow Modena paint, seeing a Modena Yellow and now this the Triplo is in another league and in the sun looks incredible in the flesh as it does some awesome stuff with sunlight. :)
     
  2. Gibbo

    Commissario

    Joined: 17 Oct 2002

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    Location: OcUK HQ

    One of my favourite shots:

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    Being the lightweight spec car in theory it weighs around 1480kg with around 570PS though Ferrari are known to be ambitious with their power claims from time to time, but it certainly feels raw and fast and pulls hard all the way to 9000rpm.

    Though I do have modifications planned they are very minor and of course to not invalidate warranty and as such I shall fit my Lithium ION RS30 4kg battery which should save around 20kg, it makes sense to do so as I own it and the Ferrari's battery is just a regular AGM unit and many owners do this on their 430/458/488's as like the SVR the Ferrari battery is 20-30kg.

    If the car does not have them I shall get the titanium wheel bolts, Ferrari charge £2000 for a set, Hills Engineering charge £640 and I've found a place in USA that ships them worldwide for $299 which is a more reasonable price.

    Noise wise I shall unplug the valves, if I like it I shall then fit an electronic valve controller with a fob remote so I can close, open or let the ECU control them, those are about £250. Then of course if I still desire a more V8 NA F1 sound track I can look at options, there are many so its not easy and some are insane money at upto 15k for an exhaust, what a joke.


    Most important of all I pick these up next Wednesday:


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    Here is hoping for some good weather to enjoy the drive home, if the weather is good I shall probably drop by Caffeine & Machine for some late lunch and of course photo opportunities. :)
     
    Last edited: 20 Feb 2019
  3. Vita

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    Joined: 26 Mar 2006

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    Location: United Kingdom

    The paint choice certainly makes the car look so much better. It really seems to add depth to the lines and overall styling.

    It’s going to be very interesting to see how ownership fairs on such a car along with kindais lambo.
     
  4. robnut

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    What a wonderful choice. Enjoy the car mate. That colour is insane, looked different in every photo.
     
  5. SupraWez

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    Joined: 17 Nov 2007

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    Very nice :)
     
  6. SDK^

    Capodecina

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    Congrats - an awesome car you got there
     
  7. JRS

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    Location: Burton-on-Trent

    Bella macchina :)
     
  8. RedvGreen

    Mobster

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    Location: Midlands

    Lovely car! Make sure you have fire suppression installed, especially if you’re tracking it though!
     
  9. kindai

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    Have been chatting with Gibbo about the "next thing" for months now, but the one car he always kept coming back to was a 458, it was never far off any conversation and on new years when he came with me to check the lambo out, I kind of knew he was going to go for that, its certainly a heart in the car :D

    Absolutely thrilled for you mate, it really is the next level up above and beyond my car and words cant describe how special that makes me feel, so you must be absolutely on cloud 9. Cant wait for Weds for collection, heres to hoping for some awesome weather!

    The color as well, in the flesh is truly, truly stunning. Pictures just do not do it justice.

    And lets not forget of course I am laying claim to that mug at the next ocuk meet :D ;)
     
  10. mccarf

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    Looks amazing, and it's actually been fun following your thought process on your decision in the other thread. Probably a stupid question but what's the little metal dodah in the middle of the keys?
     
  11. Scania

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    Beautiful, I’m glad you went with Yellow rather than black, very much look forward to seeing it in the flesh.

    It’s been fascinating to follow the thread, from Potential Mustang No.3 through to this along with the detailed financial explanations.

    Informative and insightful. :)

    For securely storing them in the dealers key locker, once the dodah is pushed into its slot they usually have to enter a code to release them, a similar thing is used at distribution centres for truck keys.:)
     
  12. paradigm

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    Excellent! Fantastic looking thing, can’t wait to hear it!
     
  13. Jester*

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    Location: Kent

    100% correct choice on the colour. Always loved a Ferrari in yellow.

    I hope ownership is a fun filled experience :)
     
  14. theone8181

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    Is 14,500 miles considered quite high for a ferrari? I know they have a stigma for being expensive to run, it would be interesting if you could post those sort of things (i know mpg won't be amazing, but i suspect servicing will be expensive).
     
  15. Gibbo

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    Servicing is covered in the OP, cheaper than expected, but shall be free first three years.:)
     
  16. The Running Man

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    Looks great. Love the 458, such a beautiful car. Enjoy!!

    Should have got white though!! ;)
     
  17. Phemo

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    Looks amazing, definitely a worthy successor to the SVR :)
     
  18. Steedie

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    Amazing car Gibbo, love it.

    Let's face it, you'll be doing well if you keep this more than 2 years :p
     
  19. DAIR

    Sgarrista

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    Very nice. I actually think these look better than the new/current 488.

    Any plans to track it?!
     
  20. Sui

    Mobster

    Joined: 24 Sep 2005

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    Location: Brighton

    Very nice car, enjoy it!

    I am confused though, for such a nice car the keys sure do look **** :D