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Hey Overclockers Forum!
With the christmas holiday's coming up, I've decided to build a new gaming/streaming PC. For quite a few months I've been watching/ reading up on reviews on various hardware and asking my friends for advice on this build.
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My Current Build
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Currently I'm gaming on:
CPU: i5-4570 3.20 Ghz (4 cores, 4 Threads)
*This CPU is the non 'K' version, so no overclock this CPU
Motherboard:
Asus H81-Me (Micro Atx)
GPU:
Gigabyte GTX 980 (Non G1 card)
RAM:
16 GB, Teamgroup Vulcan Red
DDR 3 Running at 1600mhz
PSU:
Evga "SuperNova" 650w
Cooling:
Corsair H80i
Case:
Corsair Carbide Air 240
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Whilst my current computer is serving me well for gaming. I'm having trouble streaming. Whilst attempting to stream various games, specifically Overwatch and Doom 2016, I was getting a severe amount of suttering and dropped frames.
After testing different stream qualitys and switching between CPU and GPU Encoders, I came to the conclusion that my processor was lacking the threads to pull off a streaming task like this.
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Computer Purpose / Reason for the new build
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As the thread title says, I would like to build a computer for Gaming and Casually streaming gameplay now and then to my friends ( I'm not going hardcore streaming )
Whilst I believe that the best approach to streaming would be to have two PCs (and a capture card), I feel that I don't/ won't stream enough for me to warrant a set-up like this.
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Purpose Specifics
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The type of games I would be playing on this rig would be, Overwatch(@ 144hz 1080p) , Doom 2016, Wolfenstein, Forza Horizon 3, Elite Dangerous, WatchDogs, Fallout 4
When it comes to streaming I would like to stream at a decent quality (720 60fps), whilst still being able to play games at an excellent performance
for example:
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I would like to stream overwatch at 720p 60fps, Whilst playing overwatch at 144hz 1080p
*Currently when I try to stream, Overwatch becomes a stuttering mess with framerate dropping to 20-40fps and the CPU maxing out 100%
(When streaming other games I don't mind on some, for example I play Forza Horizon 3 at 60fps due to how cpu intesive that game is. so no need to achieve 144hz)
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Budget and the Current Recomendations
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I understand that computers set for this task are pricey, so I've set my budget at £1500,
(I don't mind stretching it to £1700)
After asking friends/ watching youtube videos, here's the current recomendations on CPU's / GPU's
CPU Recommendations:
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AMD, Ryzen 7 1700 (for it's Core/thread count)
I've been told by various mates, that I should buy the Ryzen7 1700 and Overclock it to 3.8/3.9ghz. As
the 1700x and 1800x are practically the same chip?
Intel, i7 7700K
(for the Single Thread performance)
A few people have mentioned that Overwatch Streamers use Intel's Kabylake (or skylake revision.2 as I call it)
After watching various youtube videos, I'm not sure if the Ryzen is more suitable than this.
Intel, i7 8700K
(for Single thread and Core quanity)
Whilst I nearly had my heart set on Ryzen 7, I found that the 8th Generation has 6 cores/ 12 threads
(Frequency clocked at 3.7Ghz)
Would this be more suitable for gaming and streaming?
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I would buy an appropriate motherboard to accompany the CPU I purchase, a few people have recommended ASUS mobo's Accomidated with an adequate aftermarket cooler (Notuca fan or a AIO water cooler)
but if any of you guys have recommendations, please, feel free tell me about them
GPU:
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GTX 1070
GTX 1080
GTX 1080 Ti
RX580
Vega 64 (<-- gonna be honest, I haven't read up on the performance of this card, but already been hearing decent reviews from it)
RAM:
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DDR 4 16GB
(I'll purchase the ram that is compatible for the CPU (I've heard they're are certain types of ram that work better for Ryzen / Intel)
Again, any recommended types of ram, feel free to comment
Storage:
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SSD Samsung 250gb (Windows 10 shall sit in it <- also 1 or two games)
Toshiba 2TB Harddrive for any other games and general storage)
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Why am i asking Overclockers forums?
====================================
After watching youtube videos, my decision making has become quite difficult.
Various videos have said that Ryzen 7 1700 has problems at gaming at high fps whilst steaming and seems to be
tailored/optimtized towards certain games (like Dota 2)
For example: Ryzen 7 for Overwatch will stream, but has seen trouble maintaining fps with avg. framrates at 110-120
^although if anyone has different knowledge on this feel free to comment
Whilst I have considered the Kabylake CPU, It may not have enough Cores/Threads to pull off Streaming and high performance gaming at the same time?
Coffelake has also been considered, whilst more expensive than ryzen, would it be a better choice/ suited for the purpose of this computer?
Lastly, Thank you for taking the time to read this thread
All recommendations are welcome!
- Scarisbrick
With the christmas holiday's coming up, I've decided to build a new gaming/streaming PC. For quite a few months I've been watching/ reading up on reviews on various hardware and asking my friends for advice on this build.
=================
My Current Build
=================
Currently I'm gaming on:
CPU: i5-4570 3.20 Ghz (4 cores, 4 Threads)
*This CPU is the non 'K' version, so no overclock this CPU
Motherboard:
Asus H81-Me (Micro Atx)
GPU:
Gigabyte GTX 980 (Non G1 card)
RAM:
16 GB, Teamgroup Vulcan Red
DDR 3 Running at 1600mhz
PSU:
Evga "SuperNova" 650w
Cooling:
Corsair H80i
Case:
Corsair Carbide Air 240
--------------------------------------------------------------
Whilst my current computer is serving me well for gaming. I'm having trouble streaming. Whilst attempting to stream various games, specifically Overwatch and Doom 2016, I was getting a severe amount of suttering and dropped frames.
After testing different stream qualitys and switching between CPU and GPU Encoders, I came to the conclusion that my processor was lacking the threads to pull off a streaming task like this.
============================================
Computer Purpose / Reason for the new build
============================================
As the thread title says, I would like to build a computer for Gaming and Casually streaming gameplay now and then to my friends ( I'm not going hardcore streaming )
Whilst I believe that the best approach to streaming would be to have two PCs (and a capture card), I feel that I don't/ won't stream enough for me to warrant a set-up like this.
=====================
Purpose Specifics
=====================
The type of games I would be playing on this rig would be, Overwatch(@ 144hz 1080p) , Doom 2016, Wolfenstein, Forza Horizon 3, Elite Dangerous, WatchDogs, Fallout 4
When it comes to streaming I would like to stream at a decent quality (720 60fps), whilst still being able to play games at an excellent performance
for example:
------------
I would like to stream overwatch at 720p 60fps, Whilst playing overwatch at 144hz 1080p
*Currently when I try to stream, Overwatch becomes a stuttering mess with framerate dropping to 20-40fps and the CPU maxing out 100%
(When streaming other games I don't mind on some, for example I play Forza Horizon 3 at 60fps due to how cpu intesive that game is. so no need to achieve 144hz)
=====================================
Budget and the Current Recomendations
====================================
I understand that computers set for this task are pricey, so I've set my budget at £1500,
(I don't mind stretching it to £1700)
After asking friends/ watching youtube videos, here's the current recomendations on CPU's / GPU's
CPU Recommendations:
------------------------------------------------------
AMD, Ryzen 7 1700 (for it's Core/thread count)
I've been told by various mates, that I should buy the Ryzen7 1700 and Overclock it to 3.8/3.9ghz. As
the 1700x and 1800x are practically the same chip?
Intel, i7 7700K
(for the Single Thread performance)
A few people have mentioned that Overwatch Streamers use Intel's Kabylake (or skylake revision.2 as I call it)
After watching various youtube videos, I'm not sure if the Ryzen is more suitable than this.
Intel, i7 8700K
(for Single thread and Core quanity)
Whilst I nearly had my heart set on Ryzen 7, I found that the 8th Generation has 6 cores/ 12 threads
(Frequency clocked at 3.7Ghz)
Would this be more suitable for gaming and streaming?
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I would buy an appropriate motherboard to accompany the CPU I purchase, a few people have recommended ASUS mobo's Accomidated with an adequate aftermarket cooler (Notuca fan or a AIO water cooler)
but if any of you guys have recommendations, please, feel free tell me about them
GPU:
-----------------------------------------------------
GTX 1070
GTX 1080
GTX 1080 Ti
RX580
Vega 64 (<-- gonna be honest, I haven't read up on the performance of this card, but already been hearing decent reviews from it)
RAM:
-------------------------------------------
DDR 4 16GB
(I'll purchase the ram that is compatible for the CPU (I've heard they're are certain types of ram that work better for Ryzen / Intel)
Again, any recommended types of ram, feel free to comment
Storage:
--------------------------------------
SSD Samsung 250gb (Windows 10 shall sit in it <- also 1 or two games)
Toshiba 2TB Harddrive for any other games and general storage)
=====================================
Why am i asking Overclockers forums?
====================================
After watching youtube videos, my decision making has become quite difficult.
Various videos have said that Ryzen 7 1700 has problems at gaming at high fps whilst steaming and seems to be
tailored/optimtized towards certain games (like Dota 2)
For example: Ryzen 7 for Overwatch will stream, but has seen trouble maintaining fps with avg. framrates at 110-120
^although if anyone has different knowledge on this feel free to comment
Whilst I have considered the Kabylake CPU, It may not have enough Cores/Threads to pull off Streaming and high performance gaming at the same time?
Coffelake has also been considered, whilst more expensive than ryzen, would it be a better choice/ suited for the purpose of this computer?
Lastly, Thank you for taking the time to read this thread
All recommendations are welcome!
- Scarisbrick
