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Discussion in 'New to PC gaming & upgrade advice' started by Xanthine, 3 Nov 2017.

  1. Xanthine

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    Hello!

    I'm in Canada and about to buy my first new pc in ten years. (Cue mockery) I'm looking to use it for mmorpg play and graphics manipulation

    Which of these do you think I should get?


    $450
    Workstation 16g ram machine w dedicated video card but regular hd. These machines are generally more robust than home desktops, and easy to add to?

    https://m.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/...-graphics-windows-10-pro-refurbished/10654471



    $650
    Or ssd, w/o dedicated graphics card, regular pc, but 32 g ram.

    /en-CA/product/dell-dell-optiplex-9010-intel-i5-3470-3-2-ghz-32gb-ram-128gb-ssd-1tb-sata-drive-win-10-pro-64-bit-fr-eng-1yw-refurbished-optiplex-9010/10558655


    Thank you so much in advance. I have to order it within the next hour.
     
  2. Spankme

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    Erm, they crap :)
     
  3. mistersprinkles

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    These are both terrible choices. Do some research, then build it yourself with used parts. You don't have much of a budget which is a problem but ya, neither of those is right for you.

    You're going to want at least a GTX 1050Ti if you're doing any kind of gaming.

    Workstations are not "more robust" than desktops btw.
     
  4. Xanthine

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    My current computer is twelve years old;p These are a lot better than what I have, and the best I can afford. If you know of where to get better ones for the same amount of money, let me know!
     
  5. Spankme

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    For $650 you in canada u can eailly build decent basic pc, all you gotta do is hit a particular part website and then go shop at neweg :)
     
  6. Xanthine

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    Unfortunately, I can't build it myself.
     
  7. Spankme

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    Its not as hard as you think to build one, trust me..
     
  8. Xanthine

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    I'm a complete noob, unfortunately. Building a pc is massively intimidating for me. Looking at Newegg now, but I can't see a better option there?
     
  9. Spankme

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    Buying pre built you are always gonna pay a hell of a lot more for it that building it yourself.. you can seriously save up to $500 doin it.
    But either way do not pull the trigger on either of those desktops )

    That first pc you posted earlier for 450 is prolly only worth around 200 max on a good day
     
  10. Spankme

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    search this on neweg ca, its not great but its better than what you posted

    ABS Logic-Frigate Gaming Desktop Intel i3-7100 (3.9 GHz) 8 GB DDR4 1 TB HDD NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 2 GB Windows 10 Home 64-Bit ALI130
     
  11. Xanthine

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    Thank you so much for your help.

    Can you explain why that one, with 8g ram and no ssd, is better than 16 or 32g ram? Am I looking at the wrong stats?

    Many thanks.
     
  12. Xanthine

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    @mistersprinkles thank you for your advice. What's the " GTX 1050Ti" refer to? What part is that?
     
  13. Lartyconshayo

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    That's the graphics card.
     
  14. Xanthine

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    @Lartyconshayo thank you! Can't I just add a better video card once I have a pc?
     
  15. Lartyconshayo

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    You could also add more RAM and an SSD. The one spankme recommended looks reasonable to get your foot in the door. You could add the SSD and extra ram down the line
     
  16. Xanthine

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    Oh. Huh. So ram and ssd are easier to add than the graphics card? That's so opposite to what the stores try to say.
     
  17. Xanthine

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    Thank you all for your help on this. I give 70% of my wages to my community and have a really hard time justifying buying a computer, so I'm trying to spend as little as I can but I'm overwhelmed.
    It's why I haven't bought one in so long. Guilt + not knowing what to get or how to get it.
     
  18. spoffle

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    Have you ever played with lego?
     
  19. Xanthine

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    @spoffle With Lego, I can identify the pieces ;)

    This is like playing Lego without being able to see or touch it. I know so little about computers, despite reading as much as I can about them. (much conflicting info)
     
  20. lee32uk

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    You might want to ask on Linus tech tips as that is a Canadian based pc forum. Someone on there might be able to give you advice. They also have a used section I believe.