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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Soldato
Diddly squat, my dude. Diddly squat.
Soldato
Any news lately new leaks? Want some Navi action.
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Caporegime
We now know that even though Humbug upgraded recently and was not planning to upgrade, he boarded the hype train and is now looking to upgrade again
I read that earlier. Navi21 to sit between 3060ti and 3070...
This is so true!
Soldato
From the comments section of a different side:
If we believe the leaked specs, is this comment fair or FUD?
If we believe the leaked specs, is this comment fair or FUD?
Soldato
I think that's the most pointless article I've ever read.
Hence the quotation marks around "work". We all know the past few AMD releases have been pushed past their efficiency sweet spot and have greatly benefitted from some tuning to bring the temps and the heat down (which has often resulted in a performance boost). I was just saying don't throw the Ampere is hot and hungry mud slinging around because the Nvidiots will just fire back with "but Vega but Navi but Polaris blah blah blah". Let's not stoop to their level
For the flack the polaris cards got on launch, they have really aged well. My son is running an RX570, and its still a belting 1080p card.
It shouldnt even be considered an article! you could get that BS down on a tweet.
Soldato
Yup, that "opinion" is beyond trolling, there is absolutely zero technical argument in it. Zero. None.
Soldato
ahh right ok, so you're saying they're not tuned as such... yeah suppose so, but they still worked though, whether they ran hot or not... they didn't fail, well mine didn't but yeah I get your point, no problemo lolHence the quotation marks around "work". We all know the past few AMD releases have been pushed past their efficiency sweet spot and have greatly benefitted from some tuning to bring the temps and the heat down (which has often resulted in a performance boost). I was just saying don't throw the Ampere is hot and hungry mud slinging around because the Nvidiots will just fire back with "but Vega but Navi but Polaris blah blah blah". Let's not stoop to their level
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I could only find this from unity documentation:
Integer data types
Integers (int data type) are often used as loop counters or array indices. For this purpose, they generally work fine across various platforms.
If true, Nvidia has done something very clever there to ensure high utilisation of their transistors.
Soldato
That would be an absolute catastrophe if AMDs cream of the crop sat between a poxy 3060 and 3070.
According to the opinion:
Navi 21B at 2200 MHz will be between RTX 3070 and RTX 3080.
Navi 21A at 2050 MHz will be between RTX 3060 Ti and RTX 3070 (both of which are unreleased cards with unknown performance).
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-5700-xt.c3339
In order to be around RTX 2080 Ti or alleged RTX 3060 Ti / RTX 3070 performance levels, Navi 10 needs at least 35% higher performance.
Now, Navi 21 has 100% more shaders than Navi 10, 50-60% higher performance per watt, and at least 20% higher IPC and 15% higher clocks.
Oh, and 50% higher TDP limit.
Navi 21B at 2200 MHz will be between RTX 3070 and RTX 3080.
Navi 21A at 2050 MHz will be between RTX 3060 Ti and RTX 3070 (both of which are unreleased cards with unknown performance).
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-5700-xt.c3339
In order to be around RTX 2080 Ti or alleged RTX 3060 Ti / RTX 3070 performance levels, Navi 10 needs at least 35% higher performance.
Now, Navi 21 has 100% more shaders than Navi 10, 50-60% higher performance per watt, and at least 20% higher IPC and 15% higher clocks.
Oh, and 50% higher TDP limit.
Caporegime
You have to hate these people.....
3080: 29.8 TLFOPs
Big Navi: 22.5 TFLOPs
Therefore Big Navi = 3070 <> 3080.
As if Compute = Gaming performance.
By their measure a 3080 is a 2080TI +250%.
Idiots...
They are stupid because Nvidia TFLOPs are unrealistic, Nvidia uses some techniques to make these figures look extremely large, where in reality they mean no performance improvement.
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