Arghh, don’t know what to do now.

Hypersonix · 26 Sep 2020 at 19:30

So I had a GTX 1080 ti and sold it for £350 expecting to be able to buy a 3080. Ordered a MSI Ventus but have now cancelled that due to the known issues and the fact I only managed to get my order in at 00:21 on the 18th putting me at the back of the queue with no indication of when I might actually get it.

I’ve got the possibility of a year old 2070 Super for £325 as a temporary card/wait for the 3070 hoping they don’t have issues like the 3080/wait for AMD cards/get a 3080 Tuff OC when I can.

I play BF5 on a 1440 144Hz g- sync monitor and also race in Assetto Corsa Competizione at 3440x1440 100hz.

What would you do? I’m completely lost now.

mcronline · 26 Sep 2020 at 19:44

I would not have cancelled the order to be honest. But given your circumstances now I would wait for the release of "big Navi" who no doubt too will have the same supply problems NVidia is having now. Once that's come out at the end of October you should see NVidia's response, which I believe will include the 20GB version and supplies will have improved. As to the reboot issues on the 3080s... No doubt this will be fixed with either a driver or firmware update.

The Old School Gamer · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:07

Yeah a 2070 Super is decent, or maybe grab a second hand 2080ti on the cheap.
Your coming from a 1080ti so least you get RTX / DLSS while you wait for the Ampere situation to improve.

Hypersonix · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:08

mcronline said:
I would not have cancelled the order to be honest. But given your circumstances now I would wait for the release of "big Navi" who no doubt too will have the same supply problems NVidia is having now. Once that's come out at the end of October you should see NVidia's response, which I believe will include the 20GB version and supplies will have improved. As to the reboot issues on the 3080s... No doubt this will be fixed with either a driver or firmware update.

I think I’m just going to see what October brings from both camps then make my decision. I was all ready to build a full new PC so if we get decent results I’ll get the whole package towards the end of October, hopefully in time for my birthday on the 1st of Nov. Hopefully!

ketma · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:12

I wouldn't have cancelled as by the time you received your card they could have revised the production model to a v1.1 or something, in any case you still could have returned it. Not sure I agree with the statement above about Navi having the same supply issue as Nvidia, after all there using TSMC for supply and if anything they (AMD bigwigs) could sit down at the board table and agree how they can avoid a disaster like the 30xx launch......but they probably won't........

pp111 · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:18

I would wait a little. There seems to be some confusion as to what is causing the drop to windows issue. The TUF is a pretty safe bet on the capacitors but the jury is still out.

AdvanceIT · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:19

ketma said:
I wouldn't have cancelled as by the time you received your card they could have revised the production model to a v1.1 or something, in any case you still could have returned it. Not sure I agree with the statement above about Navi having the same supply issue as Nvidia, after all there using TSMC for supply and if anything they (AMD bigwigs) could sit down at the board table and agree how they can avoid a disaster like the 30xx launch......but they probably won't........

Agreed. The Samsung fab is a big part of nVidia's problems. Frank Azor replied to a guy on Twitter today who said that he bets $10 the AMD launch will be an equivalent nVidia paper launch...Azor surprised the gut by replying to his tweet and saying he will gladly take the guy's $10.

Soz, no link.

no_1_dave · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:23

Hypersonix said:
So I had a GTX 1080 ti and sold it for £350 expecting to be able to buy a 3080. Ordered a MSI Ventus but have now cancelled that due to the known issues and the fact I only managed to get my order in at 00:21 on the 18th putting me at the back of the queue with no indication of when I might actually get it.

I’ve got the possibility of a year old 2070 Super for £325 as a temporary card/wait for the 3070 hoping they don’t have issues like the 3080/wait for AMD cards/get a 3080 Tuff OC when I can.

I play BF5 on a 1440 144Hz g- sync monitor and also race in Assetto Corsa Competizione at 3440x1440 100hz.

What would you do? I’m completely lost now.

E-tailors are getting a steady supply of stock almost daily and not all of them have the long pre-order queues that are here. I didn't buy mine until Tuesday and now it's sat in my PC

Hypersonix · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:25

The Old School Gamer said:
Yeah a 2070 Super is decent, or maybe grab a second hand 2080ti on the cheap.
Your coming from a 1080ti so least you get RTX / DLSS while you wait for the Ampere situation to improve.

Another thought is that if I do get the 2070 super for now at least I’m gaming again and when everything improves I can sell my current PC as a working system and put the money towards the new machine.

LoadsaMoney · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:30

The 70 Supers still a cracking card, im running 3440x1440 on one here, runs great.

Hypersonix · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:31

no_1_dave said:
E-tailors are getting a steady supply of stock almost daily and not all of them have the long pre-order queues that are here. I didn't buy mine until Tuesday and now it's sat in my PC

You see why I’m so undecided with all of this, so many options!

ketma · 26 Sep 2020 at 20:32

Ah yes I saw that too, perhaps AMD are taking note. Nvidia are really a laughing stock right now, for simply the reason of a botched launch which will be talked about for years to come and on their next release and the one after that. All it really takes is for AMD to release a comparable product to the 3080 - doesn't even have to equal it, but come within a reasonable % margin, have a slightly lower consumer price and most importantly have stock and they could take huge a segment of the gaming market in this area. After all they did this with Ryzen and look where they are now....

meerkat_near · 27 Sep 2020 at 12:38

Hypersonix said:
So I had a GTX 1080 ti and sold it for £350 expecting to be able to buy a 3080. Ordered a MSI Ventus but have now cancelled that due to the known issues and the fact I only managed to get my order in at 00:21 on the 18th putting me at the back of the queue with no indication of when I might actually get it.

I’ve got the possibility of a year old 2070 Super for £325 as a temporary card/wait for the 3070 hoping they don’t have issues like the 3080/wait for AMD cards/get a 3080 Tuff OC when I can.

I play BF5 on a 1440 144Hz g- sync monitor and also race in Assetto Corsa Competizione at 3440x1440 100hz.

What would you do? I’m completely lost now.

I have a 2060 with a 1440p 165hz monitor and for the meantime if you are willing to drop settings to medium in battlefield V you can get around 110-120fps.
or you could get a second hand 2060 super to get a bit more performance.

we also have the same CPU and Ram so this will be about what you get with your system.

Hypersonix · 27 Sep 2020 at 14:27

meerkat_near said:
I have a 2060 with a 1440p 165hz monitor and for the meantime if you are willing to drop settings to medium in battlefield V you can get around 110-120fps.
or you could get a second hand 2060 super to get a bit more performance.

we also have the same CPU and Ram so this will be about what you get with your system.

That’s good to know, thank you.

As hard as it is I’m going to try not to purchase any cards until the end of October. By that time there should be a lot more options on the table. I will then also purchase all the parts needed for a new Pc build too. I think it will all be worth the wait!

strocky · 27 Sep 2020 at 14:40

AdvanceIT said:
Agreed. The Samsung fab is a big part of nVidia's problems. Frank Azor replied to a guy on Twitter today who said that he bets $10 the AMD launch will be an equivalent nVidia paper launch...Azor surprised the gut by replying to his tweet and saying he will gladly take the guy's $10.

Soz, no link.

https://twitter.com/azorfrank/status/1309134647410991107?s=21

Simon Belmont · 27 Sep 2020 at 14:56

LoadsaMoney said:
The 70 Supers still a cracking card, im running 3440x1440 on one here, runs great.

+1

I'm on 3440x1440p 120hz and my 2080 FE runs everything perfect. I have seen no need to rush and buy the 3080.

AdvanceIT · 28 Sep 2020 at 07:21

strocky said:
https://twitter.com/azorfrank/status/1309134647410991107?s=21

That's the one

Hypersonix · 28 Sep 2020 at 20:10

Little update:

I got an RTX 2070 Super!

I know there will be better things out very soon but if they are impossible to buy I’m not wasting any more time with it all. I’ll update the whole computer next year now.

Back to gaming!

otester · 28 Sep 2020 at 20:32

Hypersonix said:
Little update:

I got an RTX 2070 Super!

I know there will be better things out very soon but if they are impossible to buy I’m not wasting any more time with it all. I’ll update the whole computer next year now.

Back to gaming!

I hope you got that used/at a hefty discount.

Hypersonix · 28 Sep 2020 at 20:37

otester said:
I hope you got that used/at a hefty discount.

I was going to get a used year old one for £325 locally but picked up new Asus OC card for £395. As I got £350 for my old card this has only cost me £45. I am happy enough for now.

I know for a bit more again there will be better cards but I don’t care, I’ll upgrade next year when everything settles down.
Peace!