ASROCK X570 TAICHI - THE RYZEN 3000 MOTHERBOARD GIBBO & 8 PACK RECOMMENDS

Panos · 19 Dec 2019 at 13:09

Chrisc said:
im currently on a mortar (non max) which from what i hear is actually a good board. it does annoy me that i dont have the full fat bios.

MSI cost cutting practices

Chrisc · 19 Dec 2019 at 13:11

Panos said:
MSI cost cutting practices

ill blame brexit. .

Minstadave · 19 Dec 2019 at 13:25

Blackjack Davy said:
Southbridge seems a bit toasty at 55-62c, anyone else seeing this? I'm not sure if I should be concerned or not.. mainboard is a more reasonable 38-42c

Normal for this board, cooling is subpar for the chipset.

Panos · 19 Dec 2019 at 13:29

Chrisc said:
ill blame brexit. .

lol

Minstadave said:
Normal for this board, cooling is subpar for the chipset.

The fan is placed where the gpu blasts hot air

Minstadave · 19 Dec 2019 at 19:34

Anyone else finding boost clocks severely limited on the 3900X and this board.

With PBO off the TDC limit kicks in and stops me going over 4ghz all core in Cinebench. Dialling in a manual overclock lets me go above the TDC limit.

Is there anyway to disable the TDC limit but keep the stock boost?

pete910 · 19 Dec 2019 at 19:34

Panos said:
It doesn't. The fan is where the GPUs push hot air. Also is so close with the armour plating, that pushes the fan making it grind during boot after a month or so.

Think you have a problem with yours then. Had mine since release and its silent.

Minstadave · 19 Dec 2019 at 19:36

pete910 said:
Think you have a problem with yours then. Had mine since release and its silent.

He's not alone, I was having issues too, I changed my GPU cooler and upped my fan speeds and temps were manageable.

pete910 · 19 Dec 2019 at 19:38

Minstadave said:
Anyone else finding boost clocks severely limited on the 3900X and this board.

With PBO off the TDC limit kicks in and stops me going over 4ghz all core in Cinebench. Dialling in a manual overclock lets me go above the TDC limit.

Is there anyway to disable the TDC limit but keep the stock boost?

Not noticed a issue with the 2.5 bios am running, hits 4.570 on 6 and on occasion 2 will hit 4.650 for a millisecond

Minstadave said:
He's not alone, I was having issues too, I changed my GPU cooler and upped my fan speeds and temps were manageable.

My cards water cooled so maybe way mines fine .

Minstadave · 19 Dec 2019 at 19:43

pete910 said:
Not noticed a issue with the 2.5 bios am running, hits 4.570 on 6 and on occasion 2 will hit 4.650 for a millisecond

Those transient boosts are pretty meaningless to be honest. It's the all core load boosts I'm trying to tweak. Looks like full manual is the only way around it.

pete910 said:
My cards water cooled so maybe way mines fine .

It's the heat dumping from the GPU that is the issue, watercooling solves it completely, as does a blower card.

pete910 · 19 Dec 2019 at 19:46

Minstadave said:
It's the heat dumping from the GPU that is the issue, watercooling solves it completely, as does a blower card.

ah , I see. Makes sense .

Panos · 21 Dec 2019 at 23:53

2.73 beta bios is out

Panos · 22 Dec 2019 at 09:41

~~Update. Installed 2.73 haven't seen much difference tbh.~~

Holly mother!!!! There is a difference

DRAM Calculator gave me different 3800C16 setup with the 2.73 and latency dropped to 63ns!!!

Danthus · 29 Dec 2019 at 12:21

I have had this board since launch day and anything other than leaving the RAM at stock setting it just crashes.

TEAM GROUP EDITION 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHZ

Even just enabling XMP it crashes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the RAM, it was running overclocked previously.

Minstadave · 29 Dec 2019 at 12:22

OldCoals said:
I have had this board since launch day and anything other than leaving the RAM at stock setting it just crashes.

TEAM GROUP EDITION 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHZ

Even just enabling XMP it crashes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the RAM, it was running overclocked previously.

Have you tried the DRAM calculator settings?

Danthus · 29 Dec 2019 at 12:44

I haven't to be honest but, this would be the first time in 25 years of building a PC that the ram didn't run at its stock speed.

Panos · 29 Dec 2019 at 16:25

OldCoals said:
I haven't to be honest but, this would be the first time in 25 years of building a PC that the ram didn't run at its stock speed.

XMP isn't the stock speed. Is the overclocked speed the manufacturer believe that ram can do.
Which bios to do use? Have you left SOC, VDDP, VDDG to Auto?

Minstadave · 29 Dec 2019 at 16:28

Panos said:
XMP isn't the stock speed. Is the overclocked speed the manufacturer believe that ram can do.
Which bios to do use? Have you left SOC, VDDP, VDDG to Auto?

Plus its Intel orientated.

Panos · 29 Dec 2019 at 16:34

Minstadave said:
Plus its Intel orientated.

Yep.

Woodsta888 · 29 Dec 2019 at 16:39

OldCoals said:
I have had this board since launch day and anything other than leaving the RAM at stock setting it just crashes.

TEAM GROUP EDITION 16GB (2X8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHZ

Even just enabling XMP it crashes.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with the RAM, it was running overclocked previously.

Got the RAM in the right slots? I think you gotta use slots A2 & B2 when using dual channel.

Panos · 29 Dec 2019 at 16:39

Minstadave said:
Anyone else finding boost clocks severely limited on the 3900X and this board.

With PBO off the TDC limit kicks in and stops me going over 4ghz all core in Cinebench. Dialling in a manual overclock lets me go above the TDC limit.

Is there anyway to disable the TDC limit but keep the stock boost?

May I ask why you bother trying to make CB work faster? Do you use the type of all core load that you need to go over the all core boost of 4050-4100? (cooler depending).
If so, use manual OC to 4400 and leave voltage to auto.

Otherwise if you only use light loads (like gaming), activate XFR, Cstates, Prefered Cores, disable PBO and raise the bus to 100.1 with end target 100.4 when all is stable.
Even the worst games that hammer 2-3 cores of the CPU at 100% load, would be operating at 4500-4600Mhz constantly.