Base component selection, Ryzen5

StephenJ · 29 Jul 2021 at 10:56

jigger said:
The best value Ryzen is the 1600AF. About half the going rate of a 3600. 1600AF and B450

can you still get the 1600af ? , but true if you can very good value

Armageus · 29 Jul 2021 at 10:58

StephenJ said:
can you still get the 1600af ? , but true if you can very good value

You can, but it's nearer £120, so more than "half the price of a 3600". Support for Windows 11 potentially an issue with it as well

jigger · 29 Jul 2021 at 10:59

StephenJ said:
can you still get the 1600af ? , but true if you can very good value

Yes. Still widely available.

jigger · 29 Jul 2021 at 11:00

Armageus said:
You can, but it's nearer £120, so more than "half the price of a 3600". Support for Windows 11 potentially an issue with it as well

We can’t talk about competing companies prices, but available for about half, not more.

Id probably delete that post if I was you.

StephenJ · 29 Jul 2021 at 11:04

I think the 1600af was a gen2 ryzen like the 2600 so should be okay as 2000 series are supported but it is a good point and maybe needs clarity from Microsoft as to if its a supported chip

Armageus · 29 Jul 2021 at 11:11

StephenJ said:
I think the 1600af was a gen2 ryzen like the 2600 so should be okay as 2000 series are supported but it is a good point and maybe needs clarity from Microsoft as to if its a supported chip

As you say In theory should be fine as it's a 2nd gen, but the upgraded advisor was just blindly doing a 1xxx check.

jigger said:
Id probably delete that post if I was you.

Nope it's quite fine, thank you

jigger · 29 Jul 2021 at 11:13

Armageus said:
As you say In theory should be fine as it's a 2nd gen, but the upgraded advisor was just blindly doing a 1xxx check.

Nope it's quite fine, thank you

So we can mention competitors prices now?

jigger · 29 Jul 2021 at 11:16

StephenJ said:
I think the 1600af was a gen2 ryzen like the 2600 so should be okay as 2000 series are supported but it is a good point and maybe needs clarity from Microsoft as to if its a supported chip

Clarity from Microsoft, that’s a good one.

Armageus · 29 Jul 2021 at 11:19

jigger said:
So we can mention competitors prices now?

No because I've not mentioned a competitor price any more than you have with your "half the price of a 3600" comment?

"around £120" isn't an exact price and doesn't identify a competitor in any way, in the same way you can happily say that "3600 often sell on the MM for around £120"

:confused:

This is off topic though

Joxeon · 29 Jul 2021 at 12:04

I'd put in an offer to OCUK customer services of £120 for this.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x **B Grade** AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - MPK= £139.99

Total: £148.69 (includes shipping: £8.70)

slowpoke · 29 Jul 2021 at 12:09

I'm not wading into 2000 series as my goal is to be as new as possible hence 3700x, x570 because potential zen3+ and pcie4. Budget went up a bit but not by much.

My, hopefully final, recalculation (comments ?):

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Team Group Vulcan TUF Gaming Alliance 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-28800C19 3600MHz Dual Channel Kit - Blac= £74.99
1 x Arctic Freezer 34 CPU Cooler - 120mm= £19.99
1 x Arctic MX-4 2019 Edition Thermal Compound (4g)= £5.99
1 x **B Grade** AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core 4.4GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - MPK= £199.99
1 x Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus (AMD AM4) DDR4 X570 Chipset ATX Motherboard= £176.99

Total: £488.45 (includes shipping: £10.50)

Joxeon · 29 Jul 2021 at 12:17

slowpoke said:
my goal is to be as new as possible hence 3700x, x570 because potential zen3+ and pcie4. Budget went up a bit but not by much.

Try making an offer for the 3700X of around £160

slowpoke · 29 Jul 2021 at 12:21

How does one even do offers ?

Joxeon · 29 Jul 2021 at 12:23

slowpoke said:
How does one even do offers ?

Either give them a ring or post in the customer service section. I'm sure they would be happy to sort you on the 3700X out especially if you're also ordering other bits.

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/forums/community/pre-sales-queries.117/

slowpoke · 29 Jul 2021 at 16:47

Thank you all that helped me with this. Parts ordered. Kids will be happy and i will be envious (still running moss covered i7-2600k)... Cant wait for it to croak, otherwise cant justify the expense...

Joxeon · 29 Jul 2021 at 17:52

Nice one, hope your kids enjoy it.

StephenJ · 29 Jul 2021 at 18:46

Nice did you go for the 8 core in the end ?

slowpoke · 29 Jul 2021 at 21:26

StephenJ said:
Nice did you go for the 8 core in the end ?

Yes i did. This time i was more interested in getting a better motherboard to be honest. Last time big upgrade was done on a basis of a good cpu (i7-2600k) that i still run today. But since zen is so switcheable i decided to go for a better base to switch into.
8 core was because it was heavily discounted this time. Figured i wont need to worry about replacing it for a good while, while 6-cores are already being phased out.

When my i7 workstation croaks i'll be going the same route - expandable/futureproof mobo and latest'ish cpu, with view to drop in even better cpu in there later.

While Intel had a good long run i was absolutely tied in to that gen without any other options to go through short of replacing ALL base elements of the build (CPU/Mobo/RAM).