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Best £1,000 Gaming PC For 2018+ Onward ?

Discussion in 'New to PC gaming & upgrade advice' started by LukeMcCormick, 31 Aug 2017.

  1. LukeMcCormick

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    So it's my birthday soon and I'm going to be getting a new gaming PC, new case, new parts, completely new build. I have a budget of £1,000 and I need help finding the best build I can get for this budget . I already have a gaming PC now but I got it a few years ago and it has become outdated, not being able to run a lot of newer games. The main use of my new PC will be for gaming.

    The main games I play are : CS:GO , Playerunknown's Battleground ( runs HORRIBLY on my PC right now ), Grand Theft Auto V , Rocket League, Arma 3 ETC. A lot of these games (and games I would like to play in future) run very badly on my PC and I need an upgrade for upcoming years of games.

    I have little to no experience in building PC's and/or choosing parts.

    I have done a little research and here are some of the parts I have looked into being suitable purchase choices for my new build :

    MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB
    AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor

    No competitors.

    Like I mentioned, I'm no expert on which parts are the best to buy or which parts will be suitable for my new PC which is why I came onto this forum to ask for help.

    Here are the specs of the current PC I have which my parents bought me around 2013 for £630 :

    Basic Specification:

    Zalman Z3 case
    Intel Core i5 4570 "Haswell" Processor 3.2GHz
    Asus B85M-G Basic Micro ATX Motherboard
    8GB Corsair PC3-10666 1333MHz DDR3 Memory
    AMD Radeon HD 7790 1024MB Graphics Card
    1000GB 7200RPM Hard Disk - 6Gbps
    24x DVD-RW Drive Chillblast
    Xigmatek Premium Grade 500W PSU
    Windows 8 64 bit
    Wireless 802.11N USB Adaptor

    +ASUS 24" Monitor (NOT 144hz)
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    If someone could give me their opinion on which gaming PC is best for me to get for £1,000 that would be really helpful, and if there are any parts I could keep from my old build too (or sell and get some money for)!

    Thank you!, Luke 13 y/o
     
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  2. lltfdaniel

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    I was thinking about you too buy used computer hardware.

    Buy a used i7 4th generation processor, buy some ram so you have 16gb and also get a new graphics card, something like a gtx 1060.

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    Currently i think that your gpu is the biggest let down in your system.

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  3. masto

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    If you’re playing at 1080p or less, that i5 should do ok.

    I’d get a new graphics card and an SSD and see how it performs, and save some money for future upgrades.
     
  4. LukeMcCormick

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    I tried fitting a GTX 970 into my case and it didnt work, the case is either too old or too small or something. If i was to just settle with parts from my old PC, I would atleast need to get a new case.
    And you said buy a 2nd Hand i7? Will being 2nd make it work worse or will it just be the same as brand new but cheaper? also what i7 do you reccommend for gaming?
     
  5. LukeMcCormick

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    I do intend playing at 1080p or less, but if you're suggesting I dont get a completely new build, I may have some extra money left over to buy a 144hz monitor?!? and I don't think it would be worth getting a 1060 if I did this, as 1070 would bring out the max potential in gaming above 1080p
     
  6. lltfdaniel

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    i7 4770k you can get it around £190.

    I suggest a graphics card which is compact so it fits in your case, have you tried that?

    This have you tried cards like this > https://www.overclockers.co.uk/zota...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-106-zt.html it is a mini version if you had this it should fit inside of your case, its Dimension is: 111.15mm x 174mm x 35.2mm
     
  7. LukeMcCormick

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    Thing is, I bought my PC as a complete build and I really dont see myself getting past all the wiring and other stuff inside the computer to put these parts in.
    Also a question about that mini graphics card, will it perform just as good as a normal 1060? It seems significantly more expensive than some of the normal sized 1060's. does this mean it will perform better?

    ALSO As another side note here is what I have been working on in my own time as a PC build for around ~£1,000 : https://uk.************.com/list/dzGVXH

    Thanks!
     
  8. LukeMcCormick

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    Most people have been saying some of the parts in my current PC are fine but I REALLY am looking to get a completely new build as I'm just getting sick and tired of my current build and i want a complete fresh upgrade. If someone could list the best parts I can get to custom build a complete PC for £1,000 that would be fantastic.

    Thanks!

    EDIT : After some research apparently the i5-7600k is "the best gaming processor" so I could look into getting a second hand one of those in my new build? Is this a good idea?
     
  9. orbitalwalsh

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    i7 7600k wont drop into your mobo :( and only runs off newer DDR4 ram

    My basket at Overclockers UK:

    Total: £1,015.03
    (includes shipping: £11.70)


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    GPU might be a bit over kill for 1080p but will last longer- shame miners have bumped up the price a bit along with the 1060

    Use your old hard drive in the new build- is its registered to your old mobo- Microsoft webchat people will be able to take over your PC and get it registered correctly ( had that done on a client build)

    Selected the Ryzen X chip as it sounds like your not to familiar with overclocking and it should do it for you - or run the chip as fast as it can

    6 core 12 threads vs 4 cores 4 threads of the i5 - again ryzens extra core and the X chip worth it over the i5 K is you dont know how to overclock - then again just let mobo software overclock it for you

    also with the 1070gtx. run at ultra or even upscale the games to 1440p High :)

    well, heres an i5 7600k version :)

    My basket at Overclockers UK:

    Total: £1,038.48
    (includes shipping: £12.60)


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    Should be able to hit 4.5Ghz with that board or using Mobo software to overclock and guessing ram could be pushed higher more easily then AMD systems

    ****** might need to bump up PSU to 450w for both though if you can find a few £££****​
     
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  10. Scythe

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    Let's face it, if you can't even face upgrading your own system, why are you asking for a custom spec? Just look at the OCUK prebuilds. One is on offer for £900 days which will do you well.

    Alternatively as others have said, put a SSD, another 8GB Ram and a 1060/1070 graphics card in and will a fresh install of windows your computer will be like new again. The difference a SSD makes is astronomical.
     
  11. lltfdaniel

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    I must point out that a ryzen 1600 wipes the floor against a i5 7600k, the 7600k isn't considered as the cpu gamers must have.
     
  12. LukeMcCormick

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    Thank you so much for putting this together. This is definately a huge help. I dont know if the AMD Ryzen processor or the i5 7600k will perform better, I'll have to research which on is better, and I still dont understand some of the things like Overclocking or "threads" "cores" anything like that but thanks again for making this and ill certainly look into it!

    EDIT : I see in this build there is only 8GB of RAM, and one of the main problems on my old build is having only 8GB of RAM. Would it be possible to take the ram out of my old build and put it into the new one, adding up to 16GB ??
     
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  13. orbitalwalsh

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    Your ram is the older ddr3 , these systems are newer ddr4.
    7600k can overclock like a beast, if unsure Ryzen 1600x my be a better choice as it'll do it it's self if enabled
     
  14. lltfdaniel

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    If you want to know which is better watch this

    The ryzen really wipes the floor against i5 7600k on crysis 3.

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  15. Plec

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    @orbitalwalsh has done a great build (very restrained in fact - no AIO? :D)- and I agree the GTX 1070 may seem overkill but will stand the test of time better. Even at 1080p some new releases are already being stretched at ULTRA using GTX 1060 - but you could drop to a GTX 1060 if funds dictated and still have a great gaming experience at 1080p high/ULTRA. Plus, if you happen to upgrade your monitor in the near future to 1440p the GTX 1070 would have the performance covered.

    But, if you dropped to a Micro-ATX build, coupled with a standard 1600 using the supplied stock Wraith (should clock to 3.7Ghz), and 3000Mhz memory you could get 16Gb of memory and a 250Gb SSD and still be within budget.

    An SSD would be sorely missed from a system of this calibre - and will add an another area of performance punch that will amaze you just as much as the 1600/GTX 1070 in overall system performance/responsiveness (if you haven't experienced one before in your system?).

    The 3.7GHz clock is easily attainable - minor BIOS tweaks - and the 3000MHz memory will still compliment the Ryzen's penchant for faster memory speed - plus the 16Gb of memory would be appreciated by a lot of games. This would still game like a beast and, with most games now GPU orientated, the GTX 1070 will see you munch through anything at 1080p even with the vanilla 1600 at stock...

    My basket at Overclockers UK:

    Total: £1,047.05
    (includes shipping: £11.70)


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  16. orbitalwalsh

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  17. Plec

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    You couldn't resist :D

    Although, I think the XFX 400W XT would unplug itself from the GTX 1080/build and bail in fear of the anticipated mental break it would have :p
     
  18. LukeMcCormick

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    Thanks a lot for making this one, I think this is the one im going to be going for. It's my birthday in only a few days and this one has stood out to me so I think it will be the on im going to get! Thanks again for putting this together!
     
  19. Plec

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    No worries - hope the build goes smoothly.

    I always add the following with Ryzen builds:

    Ideally with Ryzen builds you would flash the BIOS almost immediately. Once you've established post with a minimal setup - CPU, 1 stick, GFX, keyboard and have established temps/stability seems OK, flash the BIOS.

    Install the latest BIOS file to a freshly formatted FAT 32 USB stick and update via the dedicated Q Flash utility as it's a Gigabyte board (hit <end> at post) to flash the BIOS (prep the stick before hand). This will ensure you have maximum memory compatibility - and should ensure you hit 3000MHz (2933MHz) using the XMP.
     
  20. LukeMcCormick

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    I have no idea what anything you just said means...
    I'm sure my dad can help me anyway...
    thanks again!