BMW and M Power Owners
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Think just caught it at a funny angle, couldn’t have been going more than 5-10mph.
Im looking forward to the conversation with the BMW garage tomorrow
The funny angle might cost about £2k to fix apparently.
Need to fix the obviously bent arm, possibly two more needed and a potential wheel bearing. They won’t know that until they fix the first and take it for a road test.
Now to decide if I claim on insurance or not...
Just the right choice for those Cornish roads
Sadly the car has barely moved in what is now probably months
Being a family man I now have the obligatory Q3 (which also has barely moved 
)Kwikfit offer a mobile fitting service for free, I've seen them get a fair bit of stick for being useless, my experience is anything but.
So, I did purchase the 440i...and now looking to get the MPPSK (car is pre July 2018)...
I think the kit has to be declared in 2 parts:
1) ECU tune 10%
2) Exhaust system change - is it considered cosmetic or performance? I was thinking that cosmetic would be more appropriate as the exhaust does not alter the power/hp of the car?
I think the kit has to be declared in 2 parts:
1) ECU tune 10%
2) Exhaust system change - is it considered cosmetic or performance? I was thinking that cosmetic would be more appropriate as the exhaust does not alter the power/hp of the car?
Soldato
So after a couple of days with the M440i I’ve now handed it back and picked up my X3M after it had some warranty work done. Just thought I’d share my feelings on the car having had it on my drive for a couple of days and used it as I would any car.
Let’s get the main point of contention out of the way, the front end, grills, nostrils whatever you want to call them. With this car, in Dravit Grey and with the Shadowline pack installed I must say I think that it looks very good. The number plate in the middle breaks up the shape entirely and in reality, it’s a total non-issue and no different to the similar sized grill on the Audi range and as per usual has been blow utterly out of proportion by the internet. I don’t believe the shape photographs well but given a choice I’d be more than happy to have a 4 Series, or the M3/4 sat on my drive.
Onto how it drives and what it’s like to live with. The engine is a very very good, but I suspect we all knew that, with plenty of shove from very low down up through the rev range. The gear box is calibrated to perfections as is BMWs norm, but one thing that I noticed was how quiet it was. Even when pushing on it’s a relatively quiet place to be, at motorways speeds its virtually silent, and even when push it’s not very shouty. The S58 in my X3M is a totally different beast, it feels similar in torque figures when low down in the rev range but comes alive about 2,500 rpm, where the B58 is very linear across the range. If you leave the gearbox to do its thing in either car, you’re unlikely to ever find yourself short on performance when you want it. Fuel economy is pretty good given what the car has power wise and I managed 39mpg from home back to the dealer compared to 31mpg in the X3M doing the same journey when I dropped my car off. One thing I did notice was the coasting which worked well with the mild hybrid system, quite often the car would shut off while slowing etc but restarted instantly when you re-applied the throttle.
Steering and suspension are well calibrated, even on a car running 20” wheels all round. In comfort and adaptive the ride is very compliant, but the car never feels wallowy, and is softer sprung than mine in comfort mode. Sport and Sport+ add weight and control to the already well controlled body roll, but I didn’t feel the need to go near those options often sticking to adaptive most of the time.
The interior on this car was in the Oyster and Black which looks good and the improvement on the dashboard and build over the previous generate are both well documented and pretty obvious when you get it the car. Space wise it’d carry 4 people quite comfortably assuming they are not all 6 foot+ and has a decent sized boot, with split folding seats.
This car came with Technology Plus package which includes things like the HUD, Driver Assistance Pro and Parking Pro packs. It has the full active cruise package and self-steering which I tried on the M1 and worked pretty well and if you were expecting to do a lot of motorway or similar type driving, I can see it making a lot of difference to your journeys. I think there is a reasonable amount of tailoring you can do to the settings so you have a fair number of options over what you can let the car do. The parking plus packaging with all the cameras works very well, as it has done for a long time, and I miss only having the rear camera on my car. It also has the Driver Recorder option which lets you capture footage from all the cameras around the car, but I didn’t get much chance to play with that.
The ID7 and dash I believe are a slightly newer hardware version than what my X3M runs, but generally performed the same. There are a lot of options for configuring the dash but I suspect most people would find what they like, in my case, Speedo, Rev counter and a sat nav guidance and rarely ever change it. The HUD and CarPlay worked identically to my car and did exactly what I expected. Wireless charging is a nice option and my phone lived on the pad, much as it does in my car, or stays in my pocket on shorter journeys as wireless CarPlay means it just works with no cables etc.
Overall, I liked the car a lot and wouldn’t be upset with it or the similar M340i as a long-term ownership prospect. Running costs would be pretty good and it has all the performance you’d ever really need.
Let’s get the main point of contention out of the way, the front end, grills, nostrils whatever you want to call them. With this car, in Dravit Grey and with the Shadowline pack installed I must say I think that it looks very good. The number plate in the middle breaks up the shape entirely and in reality, it’s a total non-issue and no different to the similar sized grill on the Audi range and as per usual has been blow utterly out of proportion by the internet. I don’t believe the shape photographs well but given a choice I’d be more than happy to have a 4 Series, or the M3/4 sat on my drive.
Onto how it drives and what it’s like to live with. The engine is a very very good, but I suspect we all knew that, with plenty of shove from very low down up through the rev range. The gear box is calibrated to perfections as is BMWs norm, but one thing that I noticed was how quiet it was. Even when pushing on it’s a relatively quiet place to be, at motorways speeds its virtually silent, and even when push it’s not very shouty. The S58 in my X3M is a totally different beast, it feels similar in torque figures when low down in the rev range but comes alive about 2,500 rpm, where the B58 is very linear across the range. If you leave the gearbox to do its thing in either car, you’re unlikely to ever find yourself short on performance when you want it. Fuel economy is pretty good given what the car has power wise and I managed 39mpg from home back to the dealer compared to 31mpg in the X3M doing the same journey when I dropped my car off. One thing I did notice was the coasting which worked well with the mild hybrid system, quite often the car would shut off while slowing etc but restarted instantly when you re-applied the throttle.
Steering and suspension are well calibrated, even on a car running 20” wheels all round. In comfort and adaptive the ride is very compliant, but the car never feels wallowy, and is softer sprung than mine in comfort mode. Sport and Sport+ add weight and control to the already well controlled body roll, but I didn’t feel the need to go near those options often sticking to adaptive most of the time.
The interior on this car was in the Oyster and Black which looks good and the improvement on the dashboard and build over the previous generate are both well documented and pretty obvious when you get it the car. Space wise it’d carry 4 people quite comfortably assuming they are not all 6 foot+ and has a decent sized boot, with split folding seats.
This car came with Technology Plus package which includes things like the HUD, Driver Assistance Pro and Parking Pro packs. It has the full active cruise package and self-steering which I tried on the M1 and worked pretty well and if you were expecting to do a lot of motorway or similar type driving, I can see it making a lot of difference to your journeys. I think there is a reasonable amount of tailoring you can do to the settings so you have a fair number of options over what you can let the car do. The parking plus packaging with all the cameras works very well, as it has done for a long time, and I miss only having the rear camera on my car. It also has the Driver Recorder option which lets you capture footage from all the cameras around the car, but I didn’t get much chance to play with that.
The ID7 and dash I believe are a slightly newer hardware version than what my X3M runs, but generally performed the same. There are a lot of options for configuring the dash but I suspect most people would find what they like, in my case, Speedo, Rev counter and a sat nav guidance and rarely ever change it. The HUD and CarPlay worked identically to my car and did exactly what I expected. Wireless charging is a nice option and my phone lived on the pad, much as it does in my car, or stays in my pocket on shorter journeys as wireless CarPlay means it just works with no cables etc.
Overall, I liked the car a lot and wouldn’t be upset with it or the similar M340i as a long-term ownership prospect. Running costs would be pretty good and it has all the performance you’d ever really need.
It's so difficult to look past an M340i or similar as an absolutely excellent all-rounder. They are really very tempting, especially given BMW seems to have accidently facelifted the 5 Series to appeal to the ex-fleet high mileage Ebay bling market.
Nobody pays list price and nearly new examples start at 35k.
It is considerably better value than a 540i, where 30k gets you a mediocre spec 3 year old example.
Yeah, I looked on AT and the cheapest used saloon with no options was about £37k. Noticed plenty running black wheels or Shadow Line - perfect for you
No options is a fairly harsh description, virtually everything you'd want is standard fit anyway and the one thing that isn't that you do want, Driver Assistant Pro, is missing from most of the high spec ones anyway.
Especially when you consider you need one with the base wheels to avoid the ghastly black wheels.
Especially when you consider you need one with the base wheels to avoid the ghastly black wheels.
I think I’m not going to bother with towing and keep the interior in the Civic. I can probably get a decent cage in there with the interior in place, then just drive it. So I’m almost certainly going to go for the M340i touring as an all rounder and family car.
Do it, they’re awesome
Soldato
what was the spec and deal you got from Tony if you don’t mind me asking?
M340i touring in dravit grey
Comfort pack, tech pack, visibility pack
£11,600 dealer contribution, think its either 3.9 or 4.9%
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M340i sounds like a half decent tow car anyway?
Soldato
thanks just interested to see how it compares to the work scheme I can use.
FD2 and trailer is right at the towing capacity.
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Got mine in Aug.There are often some up for sale on the M140/M240 UK groups on Facebook.
What colour and spec did you get above and beyond the Shadow spec? I will see if any decent ones going on the M140/M240 UK groups.
@[TW]Fox I agree the black wheels aren't as nice as the normal ones. I did see you can get them without so would look to avoid.
Was looking for a Melbourne Red one over the other colours.
Would like to get a test drive to compare it to the Golf R / GTI PP or the Audi S3 as can't think of what else is around the same price that could tick all the boxes but that is currently out of the questsion.