Depth said:
MrWhippy, Im waiting for your explanation of how Mayorga could take those left hooks off Trinidad?
sorry mate, i'm not on here all day long
first off, let me say that i'm not in the LEE would cream his ass camp. i was just responding to a few posts that seemed to be implying the power differential was the end of the matter.
Depth said:
I have boxed for years, and while accuracy is important, so is power. You are not going to KO someone with a good chin with no power.
if you've got years of first hand experience i'm sure you must have seen the occasional weak hit that resulted in a KO by virtue of a 'lucky shot'. just as you must have seen KO's as a result of maximum power shots landing where you wouldn't expect them to do damage. it happens.
Depth said:
If what your saying is true, how come Ali was not KO'd by Frazier's left hook, on the point of his chin?
Look at this, right on the sweet spot:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6axQ4s_bMfM&search=mayorga
i'm not familiar with that particular match, and it is hard to see the quality of the shots due to the lowish resolution of the clip, but i'll assume you posted it as an example, so i'm assuming you've seen better footage and those were generally pretty good shots (ie, they landed close on the danger zone).
how did he absorb them and not go down? well i'd guess the man had his mouth clenched tight down on his guard. which would mean that at the point of impact his jaw would not have moved relative to it's socket. and so no fluid up in the socket will have been displaced pressurizing the nerves around there. that's what usually does the damage.
that's why boxers are taught to keep their mouths shut.
that's why boxers go down like a sack of spuds from what look like weak shots sometimes, because they got caught with their jaws open.
of course i'm not saying, so the accurate weakling always beats the aimless slugger. power does have a role to play.
1) even a tightly clenched jaw might give a bit if there's enough force in the blow.
2) and if not, the constant bombardment may weaken or tire the opponent, and then they get sloppy, the guard drops, the jaw opens etc.
i'll be honest i'm probably thinking Lee, good as he was in his day wouldn't win this one. but if he did, i think he'd doing by skill, not force, he'd have to use good technique with accuracy early, get in their before the other guy made the most of his power advantage and/or took it to ground.
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