BT Infinity & FTTx Discussion

Caged · 25 Jul 2020 at 17:48

It's a shame they can't be powered from the Hub via PoE, Virgin Media do the same thing in their FTTP areas - you need a separate power supply for the optical node outside the house.

Sparx · 25 Jul 2020 at 18:08

VincentHanna said:
A question about the box they install inside the home (My installation is Monday)

I assume it needs power, but any reason why it needs to be "near a double socket"

Is that just because the BT engineer will need two plugs? One for the box and one for the Smart Hub?

Yeah the modem needs power + the BT Hub or whatever other router you use.

Caged · 25 Jul 2020 at 20:40

FTTP has a section on TalkTalk's website now, no prices listed and you have to phone up

https://www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/broadband/futurefibre

HungryHippos · 25 Jul 2020 at 20:45

Caged said:
FTTP has a section on TalkTalk's website now, no prices listed and you have to phone up

https://www.talktalk.co.uk/shop/broadband/futurefibre

Interesting, especially about the line rental bit.

"Don't pay for a landline you don't use with this broadband-only plan"

I am not a fan of TalkTalk but if it means cheaper prices are offered without line rental by other vendors then that can only be a good thing.

Haven't had a phone ever connected to my line as I use my mobile instead.

Caged · 25 Jul 2020 at 21:03

From a quick read of the forums TalkTalk have no way of even giving you a landline phone if you order FTTP, which seems like a bit of an oversight.

apachegoose · 26 Jul 2020 at 06:39

HungryHippos said:
Interesting, especially about the line rental bit.

"Don't pay for a landline you don't use with this broadband-only plan"

I am not a fan of TalkTalk but if it means cheaper prices are offered without line rental by other vendors then that can only be a good thing.

Haven't had a phone ever connected to my line as I use my mobile instead.

You don't pay a separate Line Rental charge anyway for FTTP. Line rental is a copper network thing.

Its likely just TalkTalk's consumer level VoIP product isn't ready so they are launching it as data only.

Furyus · 26 Jul 2020 at 08:10

I see that TalkTalk are now offering Fullfiber 900mb @ £27.50 18month contract..
Anyone had any experience dealing with TalkTalk?

Cirrusflyer150 · 26 Jul 2020 at 11:06

That’s a bargain, best I can get with my postcode is 36/7 at £22.95/18m

Furyus · 26 Jul 2020 at 11:32

Cirrusflyer150 said:
That’s a bargain, best I can get with my postcode is 36/7 at £22.95/18m

Mines exactly the same, I can't get full fiber with talk talk, But I can get 900mb with BT, strange really. Our FTTP service is very new in my area, So I can only assume BT hold the rights for a period of time maybe.

HungryHippos · 26 Jul 2020 at 11:35

Furyus said:
Mines exactly the same, I can't get full fiber with talk talk, But I can get 900mb with BT, strange really. Our FTTP service is very new in my area, So I can only assume BT hold the rights for a period of time maybe.

Yeah same here can get the bt one but talktalk checker says no.

Caged · 26 Jul 2020 at 12:48

Are you looking on the TalkTalk UFO checker? That's not the same network - Openreach charge ISPs £38 per month for the 1000/115 linking the customer back to the exchange, so you're not getting gigabit fibre on the Openreach network for £28 per month.

ChrisD. · 26 Jul 2020 at 13:21

If a new build has native FTTP, any idea what speed you'll be able to get? I believe it's BT only for the first year.

Caged · 26 Jul 2020 at 13:29

If it's not using garbage ECI kit then the 1Gbps services will be available. There is no BT exclusivity.

ChrisD. · 26 Jul 2020 at 13:30

This is the box that's in the house if it's any help?

Caged · 26 Jul 2020 at 13:34

What are you offered if you put your address into the BT checker?

HungryHippos · 26 Jul 2020 at 13:35

Caged said:
Are you looking on the TalkTalk UFO checker? That's not the same network - Openreach charge ISPs £38 per month for the 1000/115 linking the customer back to the exchange, so you're not getting gigabit fibre on the Openreach network for £28 per month.

Do you work for bt or similar? Interesting price if so gives a floor for price.

Caged · 26 Jul 2020 at 13:37

Openreach are regulated by Ofcom, they have to charge every customer (the ISPs) the same prices. They publish their price lists, e.g. https://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/ho...Z6rNZujnCs99NbIKJZPD9hXYmiijxH6wrCQm97GZMyQ==

ChrisD. · 26 Jul 2020 at 13:51

Caged said:
What are you offered if you put your address into the BT checker?

Managed to find the post code and on the BY site it says up to 900.

Caged · 26 Jul 2020 at 13:54

Then any ISP that is offering FTTP using the Openreach network can give you a 'gigabit' service. BT are I think the cheapest option currently, but Zen can provide it as well. Where people get confused is that these new build sites are fibre only, so there's no FTTC, ADSL or copper telephone line option, so they can't transfer their cheap Plusnet FTTC across and assume that only BT are allowed to provide a service.

When you order, give the ISP the barcode on the ONT and you'll probably get activated within a couple of days.

ChrisD. · 26 Jul 2020 at 13:55

That's good news, seriously thinking about going for the house, just the game to play with the developers as to what they'd chuck in.