Can you buy better?

Fr0dders · 19 Feb 2010 at 23:33

mglover070588 said:
I fail to see how Mr LOL's vectra has anything to do with this? This is the Insignia not a Vectra and the Vectra was sports remapped (although I honestly don't know if the engine and drivetrain have just been carried over or not).

it has

it uses the same 2.8 block and F40 gearbox that is only rated to 300 lb/ft of constant torque.

They have fitted a bigger turbo, improved water radiator and intercooler design, and changes a few bits and pieces but its broadly the same engine.

Meatball · 19 Feb 2010 at 23:36

The front is horrible!

I get around · 19 Feb 2010 at 23:48

I'd have a second hand RS4 than a new VXR.
It's like saying, would you like a brand new poo sandwich or cold lobster thermidor.

Fr0dders · 19 Feb 2010 at 23:53

Also, that price doesnt include any road tax or your first registration fee

http://www.vxronline.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=80618

Sneaky gits.

Settleddown · 19 Feb 2010 at 23:53

I get around said:
I'd have a second hand RS4 than a new VXR.
It's like saying, would you like a brand new poo sandwich or cold lobster thermidor.

Right..... Let me guess you drive a Bently? Poo sandwich please.

mjt · 20 Feb 2010 at 00:41

I know those pictures were taken far too close and the bumpers are out of proportion, but that thing is hideous.

MikeHiow · 20 Feb 2010 at 01:25

MrLOL said:
it has

it uses the same 2.8 block andF40 gearbox that is only rated to 300 lb/ft of constant torque.
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How is this possible? The Insignia is 4WD.

Fr0dders · 20 Feb 2010 at 02:01

MikeHiow said:
How is this possible? The Insignia is 4WD.

The insignia uses the latest generation haldex system.

No doubt the gearbox has been modified for 4x4, but the box has so little modifications it still retains the same internal designation - F40.

MikeHiow · 20 Feb 2010 at 02:25

Citation needed.

I find it very hard to believe that they would be able to take the existing Vectra gearbox and modify it for 4wd without fundamentally and massively altering its design.

Matt82 · 20 Feb 2010 at 13:12

haldex on audis = fwd gayness that occassional sends some power to the back

I get around · 20 Feb 2010 at 15:38

Settleddown said:
Right..... Let me guess you drive a Bently? Poo sandwich please.

No, I actually drive a disel VW Bora, it's a workhorse at nearly 250k miles it hasn't missed a beat in my ownership.

I'd rather have something older that looks nice, drives nice, has an interior thats not made out of old icecream tubs and is generally more reliable.
I could have bought a fairly new corsa or something but I decided to get something half decent.

Ste · 20 Feb 2010 at 16:23

Look at the state of that interior... christ

Kappa · 20 Feb 2010 at 16:50

MikeHiow said:
Citation needed.

I find it very hard to believe that they would be able to take the existing Vectra gearbox and modify it for 4wd without fundamentally and massively altering its design.

Why would it? the gearbox would still only have one spinning output, its the AWD System itself that does the faffing about with the driveshafts etc. I.e Kuga 2.0TDCi vs Focus 2.0TDCi.

Settleddown · 20 Feb 2010 at 17:09

Ste said:
Look at the state of that interior... christ

Serious??? I think it looks stunning! This VXR Tourer looks good.

http://tinypic.com/r/2u7x8o2/6

http://tinypic.com/r/6i8dg7/6

http://tinypic.com/r/2lbdkdv/6

http://tinypic.com/r/fn4y85/6

Cyanide · 20 Feb 2010 at 17:28

Settleddown said:
Serious??? I think it looks stunning!

I think it looks like the usual Vauxhall cheap plastics

Settleddown · 20 Feb 2010 at 18:04

Cyanide said:
I think it looks like the usual Vauxhall cheap plastics

I don’t know, it is a huge step up from the Astra and Vectra hardly feels like the old cheap plastics, yeah its no German interior like the Audi BMW
etc but its on a level with the mondeo now I feel.

Snax · 20 Feb 2010 at 18:59

Impreza STi UK type.

About £25k new, quicker and prettier

turbotoaster · 20 Feb 2010 at 21:07

Snax said:
Impreza STi UK type.

About £25k new, quicker and prettier

after 4 pages somebody finally comes up with an alternative after all the bitching, good on you mate!

p.s all the moaning about vauxhaul drivetrains, i maybe mistaken but mrLOL clutch went, not his gearbox, if im wrong i apologise.

if im right though, your all moaning that a standard clutch went when he turned up the boost higher than stock and subjected the clutch to much higher torque ratings than it was manufactured for, its like getting a veryon, turning the boost up and pushing 1500bhp then say the build quality is rubbish because it made the clutch slip!

MikeHiow · 20 Feb 2010 at 21:35

This is the trouble, and you get it a lot over on the Vauxhall forums - people seem to think it is a god given right that the car they've bought (quite clearly without researching) must be tuneable to one million billion bhp - and that the Vauxhall should provide a warranty when you try.

monkey_boy · 20 Feb 2010 at 22:54

Matt82 said:
haldex on audis = fwd gayness that occassional sends some power to the back

Are you going to post anything useful? MrLOL openly admits that he drove it like he stole it after a remap, and that its very uncommon anyway.

OP is talking about NEW 2010 performance cars. Will you stop wittering on about Audi unless you can see a 2010 model for £25k or less.

I can't see anything on the market that touches it if you're top end budget is at £25k for a new car.