Cheap gaming PC capable of playing COD

Cupidstunt0 · 28 Apr 2020 at 10:39

Hi, I'm new to gaming and want to get a gaming PC that will play COD modern warfare without any major issues.

I was hoping to get one below £300 but can stretch to £400 if I have to.

I don't mind if it's refurbished or anything to help keep the cost down so I'm thinking that Ebay may be the ideal place?

I have found options on Ebay from £200 but don't want to purchase unless they would be capable. I'm obviously not expecting perfect graphics or anything. Is this too cheap?...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/123699146495

I could look at something like this ranging from £270 with a couple of upgrade options for hard disk, memory or graphics card.

If you could get this and only upgrade 1 or 2 things, what would it be?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/223985130009

Alternatively, if I'm going down the wrong route and you know of a better place to grab a bargain, that would also be much appreciated!

Thanks

Charlatan · 28 Apr 2020 at 10:52

They are both overpriced junk. The motherboard and CPU's in the 1st are at least 10 years old, and the 2nd one about 7-8 years. The graphics are low end when they were new 10 years or so ago.

You would be better looking for a 3200g Ryzen system, the onboard graphics are night and day above either of those. Then add a graphics card when you have more money.

Cupidstunt0 · 28 Apr 2020 at 11:02

Charlatan said:
They are both overpriced junk. The motherboard and CPU's in the 1st are at least 10 years old, and the 2nd one about 7-8 years. The graphics are low end when they were new 10 years or so ago.

You would be better looking for a 3200g Ryzen system, the onboard graphics are night and day above either of those. Then add a graphics card when you have more money.

Haha, thank you for your honesty, I'm glad I asked!

I'll look into a 3200g Ryzen system now, can you recommend a good place to pick one up by any chance?
I only just realised that this site sells gaming PCs, would this be as good a place as any?
Thank you for the advice anyway!

Edit:
I've found a couple of options, are these also overpriced junk?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/2029026225...obXsZPNQlwmhDIaPeOVfX2ydzgkA1R6hoCkBUQAvD_BwE

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222912185443

Charlatan · 28 Apr 2020 at 11:08

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-kinetic-r1-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-3-3200g-fs-1ca-og.html is basically a bare minimum. Even that is over your budget though. You may be better looking for something 2nd hand, but something from this century

Are you experienced in computers? If you could install Windows 10 yourself, that'd save you the best part of £100

Cupidstunt0 · 28 Apr 2020 at 11:18

Charlatan said:
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-kinetic-r1-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-3-3200g-fs-1ca-og.html is basically a bare minimum. Even that is over your budget though. You may be better looking for something 2nd hand, but something from this century

Are you experienced in computers? If you could install Windows 10 yourself, that'd save you the best part of £100

Thank you. I may even suck it up and go for something like that if nothing cheaper comes up.

I don't really want to spend that much but if it gets me a new pc and a gaming system in 1, I can potentially justify it.

I'm fairly good with computers and technical stuff in general as I'm good at researching the information on how to do these things but I've not done that before except when my mate gave me a hooky windows CD years ago. I do have a couple of months off work to work such things out though so it might be worth looking into.

Cupidstunt0 · 6 May 2020 at 03:08

OK, so with my idea of getting a cheap gaming PC firmly blown out of the water, I'm trying to justify increasing my budget.

After looking at some options I'm now considering spending ~£750 on the OcUK Kinetic R1 Gaming PC as suggested by Charlatan but with the graphics card and other available upgrades included so that I don't have to worry about upgrading later on.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G Quad Core 4.2GHz

16GB Memory

MSI GeForce GTX 1650 Super Ventus XS OC 4096MB Graphics card

2TB Storage

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-kinetic-r1-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-3-3200g-fs-1ca-og.html#t=c1d1f1

This would be quite a big investment for me and I don't really know what I'm doing so I was wondering if I could ask a few questions.

Will this PC be able to cope with games that come out on the PS5 when it's out?

Is there any reason that this shouldn't be able to play the high performance games that come out over the next 3 or 4 years?

Is this particularly good value for money for a gaming PC costing ~£750 or could I find better elsewhere?

Thank you

Burnt_Custard · 6 May 2020 at 08:12

Cupidstunt0 said:
OK, so with my idea of getting a cheap gaming PC firmly blown out of the water, I'm trying to justify increasing my budget.

After looking at some options I'm now considering spending ~£750 on the OcUK Kinetic R1 Gaming PC as suggested by Charlatan but with the graphics card and other available upgrades included so that I don't have to worry about upgrading later on.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G Quad Core 4.2GHz

16GB Memory

MSI GeForce GTX 1650 Super Ventus XS OC 4096MB Graphics card

2TB Storage

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-kinetic-r1-gaming-pc-amd-ryzen-3-3200g-fs-1ca-og.html#t=c1d1f1

This would be quite a big investment for me and I don't really know what I'm doing so I was wondering if I could ask a few questions.

Will this PC be able to cope with games that come out on the PS5 when it's out?

Is there any reason that this shouldn't be able to play the high performance games that come out over the next 3 or 4 years?

Is this particularly good value for money for a gaming PC costing ~£750 or could I find better elsewhere?

Thank you

Not the best value for money IMHO. But I'm not saying it is bad but at that price I would be hoping for a 6 core 12 thread CPU and a SSD for that price.

A Ryzen 3400g and GTX 1650 should be able to hand all modern games at 1080p 60fps on High. We can only speculate how powerful the PS5 will be but it seems hardware wise we are looking like Ryzen 3700x and RX 5700XT level but its main focus will be geared towards 1440p and higher. It will also take a few years until the games start catching up to utilize the PS5 hardware.

In 3-4 years, I will predict that you probably will start to struggling because of the 4 core and 8 threads of the 3400G. The GTX 1650 will start getting old but at least GPU upgrades are are easy to do at least

Cupidstunt0 · 6 May 2020 at 10:36

Burnt_Custard said:
Not the best value for money IMHO. But I'm not saying it is bad but at that price I would be hoping for a 6 core 12 thread CPU and a SSD for that price.

A Ryzen 3400g and GTX 1650 should be able to hand all modern games at 1080p 60fps on High. We can only speculate how powerful the PS5 will be but it seems hardware wise we are looking like Ryzen 3700x and RX 5700XT level but its main focus will be geared towards 1440p and higher. It will also take a few years until the games start catching up to utilize the PS5 hardware.

In 3-4 years, I will predict that you probably will start to struggling because of the 4 core and 8 threads of the 3400G. The GTX 1650 will start getting old but at least GPU upgrades are are easy to do at least

Thank you for that advice, I am having a look now for six core gaming PC's within that price range and I think I may have found one that looks like much better value for money.

https://www.ginger6.com/g6-fusion-600-x1-amd-gaming-pc.html

If I upgrade the a couple of bits from the basic version, I end up with this for £757:

Case
Antec NX100 (ATX) - No Optical Drive
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen 5 3600 (6x 3.40/3.90GHz) - £46.22
Motherboard
Asus Prime A320M-K - AM4 - USB 3.0, SATA3 (MATX)
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair DDR4 2400MHz (1x8GB)
Graphics
4GB Nvidia GTX 1650 - DVI, HDMI, DP - £26.18
M.2 Solid State Drive
256GB XPG SX8200 M.2 NVME (Up to 3500MB/R, 1200MB/W) - ...
M.2 Solid State Drive
256GB XPG SX8200 M.2 NVME (Up to 3500MB/R, 1200MB/W) - £50.72
1st Hard Drive
1TB SATA3 Hard Drive (UDMA600)

Does this look like particularly good value for money?

Would your good self or anybody have any suggestions on what I should or shouldn't have upgraded here?

Thanks again!

Burnt_Custard · 6 May 2020 at 10:57

Look at a ryzen 5 2600 to save a bit of money.
B450 motherboard is highly recommended but I would not say essential (IMHO)
Go for dual ram (2x4gb or 2x8gb) as the cpu speed is dependent on dual channel.
Look at cyber power

Charlatan · 6 May 2020 at 11:32

You can't post competitor links on here.

As it happens, that is pretty poor. Poor motherboard, slow ram, only a GTX1650, not a super.

This would be better if you could change the 1650 to a super, might be worth ringing

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...00-series-gaming-pc-fs-1dn-og.html#t=b2c1d0f1

Joxeon · 6 May 2020 at 11:56

Charlatan said:
You can't post competitor links on here.

As it happens, that is pretty poor. Poor motherboard, slow ram, only a GTX1650, not a super.

This would be better if you could change the 1650 to a super, might be worth ringing

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...00-series-gaming-pc-fs-1dn-og.html#t=b2c1d0f1

This is pretty much spot on although I'd change the hdd to a 1tb ssd for OS and games.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x OcUK Kinetic R3 - AMD B450 Configurable Ryzen 3000 Series Gaming PC = £813.94
- Case:Kolink Inspire Series K3 RGB Micro-ATX Case - Black Window
- Processor:AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - MPK
- Graphics Cardalit GeForce GTX 1650 StormX 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
- Memory:Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey
- Primary Drive:TeamGroup 1TB Vulcan SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive
- Secondary Drive:Unwanted
- WIFI:Unwanted
- Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems
- Security Software:**Special Offer** Bullguard Internet Security - Anti-Virus and Security - 1 Year 3 PC

Total: £828.04 (includes shipping: £14.10)

Cupidstunt0 · 6 May 2020 at 12:44

Burnt_Custard said:
Look at a ryzen 5 2600 to save a bit of money.
B450 motherboard is highly recommended but I would not say essential (IMHO)
Go for dual ram (2x4gb or 2x8gb) as the cpu speed is dependent on dual channel.
Look at cyber power

You sir, are a very helpful person and I thank you.

Following your suggestions I seem to have found one that ticks all the boxes and more, albeit at ~£840 with a 240GB SSD and some game subscriptions thrown in as there was no option to downgrade to Ryzen 5 2600.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - 6-Core 3.60GHz, 4.2GHz Turbo - 32MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible (No On-board Graphics)
HDD: 2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive [+17] (1 Drive)
MEMORY: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/2400mhz Dual Channel Memory [+20] (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)
MOTHERBOARD: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX: M-ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, SATA3, 1x M.2 [+25]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO
VIDEO: AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB - DX12® - VR Ready, HDMI, DVI, VGA, 3 Monitor Support [+27] (Single Card)

Does this sound like good value for money?

Cupidstunt0 · 6 May 2020 at 12:47

Charlatan said:
You can't post competitor links on here.

As it happens, that is pretty poor. Poor motherboard, slow ram, only a GTX1650, not a super.

This would be better if you could change the 1650 to a super, might be worth ringing

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk...00-series-gaming-pc-fs-1dn-og.html#t=b2c1d0f1

Apologies, I wasn't aware. I will refrain from doing so

Cupidstunt0 · 6 May 2020 at 12:54

Joxeon said:
This is pretty much spot on although I'd change the hdd to a 1tb ssd for OS and games.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x OcUK Kinetic R3 - AMD B450 Configurable Ryzen 3000 Series Gaming PC = £813.94

Case:Kolink Inspire Series K3 RGB Micro-ATX Case - Black Window

Processor:AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - MPK

Graphics Cardalit GeForce GTX 1650 StormX 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

Memory:Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey

Primary Drive:TeamGroup 1TB Vulcan SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive

Secondary Drive:Unwanted

WIFI:Unwanted

Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems

Security Software:**Special Offer** Bullguard Internet Security - Anti-Virus and Security - 1 Year 3 PC

Total: £828.04 (includes shipping: £14.10)

Thank you for the suggestion, I've just been looking at another one with the following stats that also looks like good value for money at a very similar price so I'll try to compare the 2 options and see what works best!

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - 6-Core 3.60GHz, 4.2GHz Turbo - 32MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible (No On-board Graphics)
HDD: 2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive [+17] (1 Drive)
MEMORY: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/2400mhz Dual Channel Memory [+20] (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)
MOTHERBOARD: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX: M-ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, SATA3, 1x M.2 [+25]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO
VIDEO: AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB - DX12® - VR Ready, HDMI, DVI, VGA, 3 Monitor Support [+27] (Single Card)

240 GB SSD

Burnt_Custard · 6 May 2020 at 12:54

Joxeon said:
This is pretty much spot on although I'd change the hdd to a 1tb ssd for OS and games.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x OcUK Kinetic R3 - AMD B450 Configurable Ryzen 3000 Series Gaming PC = £813.94

Case:Kolink Inspire Series K3 RGB Micro-ATX Case - Black Window

Processor:AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Six Core 4.2GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - MPK

Graphics Cardalit GeForce GTX 1650 StormX 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

Memory:Team Group Vulcan Z T-Force 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C16 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Grey

Primary Drive:TeamGroup 1TB Vulcan SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive

Secondary Drive:Unwanted

WIFI:Unwanted

Operating System:Microsoft Windows 10 Home Advanced - Systems

Security Software:**Special Offer** Bullguard Internet Security - Anti-Virus and Security - 1 Year 3 PC

Total: £828.04 (includes shipping: £14.10)

This one is pretty much prefect. Nice and big 1TB SSD (even though I think 500GB is enough but nothing wrong with getting more at these prices)

Charlatan · 6 May 2020 at 12:55

Cupidstunt0 said:
You sir, are a very helpful person and I thank you.

Following your suggestions I seem to have found one that ticks all the boxes and more, albeit at ~£840 with a 240GB SSD and some game subscriptions thrown in as there was no option to downgrade to Ryzen 5 2600.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - 6-Core 3.60GHz, 4.2GHz Turbo - 32MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible (No On-board Graphics)

HDD: 2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive [+17] (1 Drive)

MEMORY: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/2400mhz Dual Channel Memory [+20] (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)

MOTHERBOARD: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX: M-ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, SATA3, 1x M.2 [+25]

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO

VIDEO: AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB - DX12® - VR Ready, HDMI, DVI, VGA, 3 Monitor Support [+27] (Single Card)

Does this sound like good value for money?

It's decent, apart from the memory. That's 2400mhz, you want 3200mhz stuff at least, possibly 3600mhz. I would also add a small SSD to it to put Windows on

Cupidstunt0 · 6 May 2020 at 13:51

Charlatan said:
It's decent, apart from the memory. That's 2400mhz, you want 3200mhz stuff at least, possibly 3600mhz. I would also add a small SSD to it to put Windows on

This is going to wind up costing me a nice cool G before I've even bought any games

Luckily that last one did have a 250GB SSD included, it just didn't show in the main specifications.

Regardless, following up from the advice above I've upgraded the alternative option to a 480GB SSD and 3200MHz memory.

I'd love to find a reason not to go with this one and to look at the overclockers PC above suggested by Joxeon but the specifications below just look like such good value to my feeble mind.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - 6-Core 3.60GHz, 4.2GHz Turbo - 32MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible (No On-board Graphics)
HDD: 2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive [+17] (1 Drive)
MEMORY: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/3200mhz Dual Channel Memory [+34] (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)
MOTHERBOARD: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX: M-ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, SATA3, 1x M.2 [+25]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO
VIDEO: AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB - DX12® - VR Ready, HDMI, DVI, VGA, 3 Monitor Support [+27] (Single Card)
SSD: 480GB ADATA Ultimate SU630 2.5" SSD - 520MB/s Read / 450MB/s Write [+27] (1 Drive)
2019 XBOX game pass to PC game bundle + AMD Q1'20 Raise the game bundle

All of the above works out at £888. It all looks the part as well. Does that pretty much cover everything that I'd need in a decent future proof gaming PC for under £1,000?

Actually after comparing the two properly, there's not really much difference at all, they do look very similar specifications, there's just a couple of minor differences.

Charlatan · 6 May 2020 at 14:24

Looks decent and you'll get some games with the bundle and pass

Cupidstunt0 · 6 May 2020 at 14:42

Charlatan said:
Looks decent and you'll get some games with the bundle and pass

Thanks for all the advice, it's been very helpful

Kurgen · 7 May 2020 at 15:10

Cupidstunt0 said:
This is going to wind up costing me a nice cool G before I've even bought any games

Luckily that last one did have a 250GB SSD included, it just didn't show in the main specifications.

Regardless, following up from the advice above I've upgraded the alternative option to a 480GB SSD and 3200MHz memory.

I'd love to find a reason not to go with this one and to look at the overclockers PC above suggested by Joxeon but the specifications below just look like such good value to my feeble mind.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 - 6-Core 3.60GHz, 4.2GHz Turbo - 32MB L3 Cache Processor, Pro OC Compatible (No On-board Graphics)

HDD: 2TB Seagate BarraCuda SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 7200RPM Hard Drive [+17] (1 Drive)

MEMORY: 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4/3200mhz Dual Channel Memory [+34] (Corsair Vengeance LPX w/Heat Spreader)

MOTHERBOARD: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX: M-ATX w/ RGB, USB 3.1, SATA3, 1x M.2 [+25]

SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD AUDIO

VIDEO: AMD Radeon RX 5500 XT 8GB - DX12® - VR Ready, HDMI, DVI, VGA, 3 Monitor Support [+27] (Single Card)

SSD: 480GB ADATA Ultimate SU630 2.5" SSD - 520MB/s Read / 450MB/s Write [+27] (1 Drive)

2019 XBOX game pass to PC game bundle + AMD Q1'20 Raise the game bundle

All of the above works out at £888. It all looks the part as well. Does that pretty much cover everything that I'd need in a decent future proof gaming PC for under £1,000?

Actually after comparing the two properly, there's not really much difference at all, they do look very similar specifications, there's just a couple of minor differences.

What Case and PSU does it come with