They're both in a reasonable price range, don't want to go all out as i'm keeping my wharfedales for music, so these are going to be used for the very occasional mp3 and games. I wouldn't have minded a decoder to allow me to use Pro Logic II but that is no biggy, i've dropped the idea for now. I was originally looking for a 2nd hand 5.1 hi fi set (with the sub as the amp) but the large number are just too big for where i'm sat so i'm sticking with the idea of either the Creative Inspire P5800 OR Logitech X530, what do people who have them think of them? EDIT : Would also consider the Creative Inspire T7900, however do the extra 2 sats make that much difference, would they be alrigh tin a room 2.5m x 5m? Or is it overkill?