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Did Brexit kill AlieExpress?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by =XDC=FluphyBunny, 4 Jan 2021.

  1. Minusorange

    Soldato

    Joined: 25 Nov 2005

    Posts: 7,430

    How is buying from Aliexpress these days now the brexit dust has somewhat settled ?
     
  2. jklc

    Hitman

    Joined: 14 Mar 2003

    Posts: 906

    I had no issues with an iPad screen recently. Took a week to arrive with a listing advertised as 10 day delivery. As stated in the thread, vat and customs stuff is paid in advance so you pay a chunk on top of listed prices.
     
  3. dcsarge

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 19 Dec 2008

    Posts: 2,022

    Location: Bristol

    I bought some replacement laptop fans and thermal pads last month and they charged the VAT directly and I received all items in less than two weeks via Ali Standard Shipping > Royal Mail with no further charges.
     
  4. Psycho Sonny

    Caporegime

    Joined: 21 Jun 2006

    Posts: 36,697

    I've started buying using a middle man. It's a bit of a minefield. I have to find someone who buys the type of stuff I want. They then buy it for you and get it shipped to their address in china. They test it for you and take pics making sure you are happy with the product.

    They then either ship it directly to you or ship it to a friend or family local to where you are in bulk including all the other purchases for other people.

    That person then splits it up and posts it to you. It's called triangle shipping.

    It's better for stuff which could be terrible quality as you get sent 12 high Res pics of the product from every angle and they can test it for you. If there is any issues they can return it to the seller for a full refund which is easier because it's local.

    I'm also buying off other sites doing this not AliExpress as it's far cheaper using the proper Chinese sites aimed at the Chinese market. Weidian, taobao, etc. It's all in Chinese so a middle man is a must and people do that for a living for a small fee.
     
  5. Minusorange

    Soldato

    Joined: 25 Nov 2005

    Posts: 7,430

    I was a little worried there'd be hidden charges but with everything paid up front and it going through customs fine is good to hear

    Seems a bit long winded, I'd rather pay the extra and just buy from UK for anything expensive
     
  6. Psycho Sonny

    Caporegime

    Joined: 21 Jun 2006

    Posts: 36,697

    Yeah it is I'm not going to bother with it as it's a lot of hassle but I've saved maybe £170 over 3 products doing this. It was more of an experiment I've never done it before and doubt I will again.
     
  7. PiKe

    Caporegime

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 25,161

    Location: Lake District

    Still cheaper buying from aliexpress in my experience.
     
  8. amigafan2003

    Capodecina

    Joined: 18 Jan 2008

    Posts: 18,574

    Location: Fylde Coast, Lancashire

    It's fine. I've been buying a bit of camping gear from AliExpress (including a Nuturehike Cloud Peak 2 and Lanshan 1 Plus tent plus various footprints and Titanium cookware) and it's still cheaper than buying in the UK even with the taxes added - at least this way you know if you'll get charged taxes rather than it being a lottery - and It also means I don't have to pay the Parcelforce/UPS/Fedex Robin Hood tax as well! Delivery times have actually improved as they seem to clear customs quicker now.
     
  9. F2kSel

    Hitman

    Joined: 22 Sep 2008

    Posts: 685

    Location: Stoke

    Using AliExp I ordered a few things from two suppliers about 3-4 weeks ago, One did show VAT the other had no mention of it when buying.
    The one with the VAT paid arrived in just over two weeks without issues the other a week later also without issues but it did show the value of the the item at (USD) $0.01 real cost was £3.77
    The last few Items I ordered from Ebay never arrived and the one that did was the wrong Item so I've basicly switched to AliExp.
     
  10. Hagar

    Capodecina

    Joined: 1 Mar 2010

    Posts: 10,898

    Location: 5 degrees starboard

    Triangular trade used to be goods to Africa, slaves to the Caribbean, then sugar to the UK. They could have picked a less evocative name.
     
  11. doodah

    Capodecina

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 24,098

    Location: London

    Anyone get nuisance calls after using AE? I get calls from what looks like a UK mobile number but it's just some woman speaking Cantonese or Mandarin.
     
  12. Psycho Sonny

    Caporegime

    Joined: 21 Jun 2006

    Posts: 36,697

    Nope and I've ordered quite a lot off AE in the past.
     
  13. Th0nt

    Capodecina

    Joined: 21 Jul 2005

    Posts: 12,673

    Location: N.Ireland

    This. Said 10 days, took 10 days. Good service.
     
  14. IT Troll

    Mobster

    Joined: 15 Jun 2005

    Posts: 2,621

    Location: Edinburgh

    I just received item which was ~£20 and for which AE had charged UK VAT during checkout.

    Value declared on the package was $6 and had clearly been cut open by customs. Make me wonder what would have happened if customs decided the item was under valued.

    Official VAT invoices states, '(UK VAT ID in progress by tax authority)'. Hmmm...
     
  15. Surveyor

    Capodecina

    Joined: 5 Sep 2010

    Posts: 23,909

    You'd have a bill to pay/argue about.

    Unless the seller is up to something dodgy they should have declared the correct value and that UK VAT had been paid.
     
  16. Nasher

    Capodecina

    Joined: 22 Nov 2006

    Posts: 20,793

    Seems to be a gamble on if you get taxed or not.

    But it still beats ebay. That is full of Chinese tat now anyway and the high seller fees are killing it.
     
  17. Hotwired

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 17 Aug 2009

    Posts: 8,651

    Trying my first punt on cheap aliexpress tat.

    Got a surprisingly fast notice that it was "in my country" a week ago then it apparently cleared customs. Still waiting :p
     
  18. d_brennen

    Capodecina

    Joined: 30 Jan 2009

    Posts: 16,480

    Location: Aquilonem Londinensi

    How does this work then? I used to buy lots from BG and AE, haven't really since covid as some of my interests are on hold. How to HMRC know they've paid the correct VAT?
     
  19. Surveyor

    Capodecina

    Joined: 5 Sep 2010

    Posts: 23,909

    If you buy something for £50 through Ali Express then you'll be charged £60 and the customs declaration should show £50 plus £10 VAT. Ali Express will account for the £10 to HMRC.
     
  20. IT Troll

    Mobster

    Joined: 15 Jun 2005

    Posts: 2,621

    Location: Edinburgh

    The trouble is AE sellers don't seem to be aware that AE are now collecting UK VAT during checkout. So some are continuing with the old practice marking the value low and no tax is shown on the declaration. The seller I chatted with said he had no way to add tax information to the declaration.

    The AE Help Center still states that the buyer is responsible for all taxes & duties on receipt, that these are normally collected by the shipping company and are never covered by AE.

    I don't think I would risk any high value items until the process is working better.