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England Goalkeeper

Discussion in 'SA Archive' started by Cemetery, 18 Oct 2002.

  1. Cemetery

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    Who should it be. Following yet another mistake by Seaman should we have a new number 1? I have personally liked Seaman as a keeper for sometime & until recently had thought he should remain & not just because of the mistakes, but because he now often looks very uncertain & that is not something you want to see in the National keeper.

    If you say yes he should step down, then who would you have replace him?
     
  2. Miguél

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    I think maybe we should give Robinson a go but the commentators yesterday were saying David James is the #2 keeper, he was on the bench wasnt he?

    Personally i think Sven will keep Seaman in goal for a while yet.
     
  3. memphisto

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    Go youth

    I say Robinson

    Build for the furture not for the present

    it is a problem the entire england set up has had for a number of years going with older more experienced paleyers who are playing sometimes poorly

    Isay fresh approach go for the youth and build a team for WC 2006 not one for today and tommorrow
     
  4. JAzz

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    Seaman is the best in country simple as that really so he should be first choice, he is getting alot of stick imo which he shouldnt be getting.
     
  5. s-p

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    I'm not sure if I'd go with Robinson. He's not had one full season in the Prem yet (as first choice keeper), so whether he'd be experienced enough to replace Seaman I don't know.

    6 months ago I would have said Martin should replace Seaman. Now I just don't know. Probably best of giving James a go.
     
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  6. McBain

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    Paul Robinson %100 he has proven his quality in the Leeds side this season so far...

    Why not give him a try.......
     
  7. NitrogenY3K

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    I think seaman should stay on for a while longer, every player makes mistakes and every player goes through a bad patch.

    But if he was to go I think i would prefer Robinson to take over
     
  8. I'd go with David James. I rate him pretty highly: he's improved lots since he left Liverpool.

    I was hoping Seaman would have two good games (vs Slovakia and FYROM), then be able to retire with us virtually qualified. Now, he's been poor in both games and will be desperate to redeem himself :( I'm pretty sure he'll be out of the picture by the next game though, and it's sad to see him end in such a way. He should have retired after the world cup, where he was pretty good IMO.
     
  9. BrenOS

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    give james and robinson a chance

    seamen lost us the world cup, as did shilton in '90. thats the problem with england, we always stick with the deadwood for too long
     
  10. Gilly

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    Respect, respect to the man most high.

    I agree :cool:
     
  11. Miguél

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    Yup its definately time for Paul Robinson, trouble is will sven think that to ?
     
  12. Bungee

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    Anyone but Seaman!

    My choice would be Robinson too :)

    Wright and Kirkland have potential too
     
  13. Gilly

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    I agree about Robinson and Kirkland but Wright is even worse than Seaman
     
  14. Nismo

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    Put Robinson in now and leave him there. Only thing thats gonna happen though is that Sven will stick with Seaman, and maybe only give James a game or two which wont give him time to impress.
     
  15. Davey_Pitch

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    Oh please, he's not that bad. He has tons of potential and has been playing well for Everton after a shaky start. He was excellent at Ipswich but had a bad year at Arsenal, but you don't turn into a bad player overnight.
     
  16. Gilly

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    But you do over the course of a season or two.

    He's the worst keeper I've seen for a long time. Can't believe the silly money Everton spent on him.

    I'd rather have you in the net ;)
     
  17. Bungee

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    Wright was great for Ipswich, so the potential IS there. He needs some confidence though.

    I think that Sven will go with James though if he drops Seaman :(
     
  18. Gilly

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    Look at Nicky Weaver for an example.

    He had one great season (as Pob did)
    Got into the England setup (as Pob did)
    He held down a first-team place in the Prem (as Pob did)
    He was looked at by a few teams (as Pob was)
    He's now rubbish (as Pob is)

    It's not the first time and it won't be the last. Wright is already leagues behind Robinson, the only young keeper in the country that I've seen with a chance of catching Robbo is Kirkland. Just a shame he's not playing first team so we can really see how good he is.
     
  19. Bungee

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    Oh come on! Wright is a decent keeper, and if he gets a good run with Everton maybe his confidence will improve to what it was. You don't turn into a bad goalkeeper overnight.
    I am not saying he should be in the England setup now, but if his Ipswich form returns, then he's one to look at.
     
  20. Gilly

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    No, you don't turn into a bad keeper overnight. But Wright has done nothing useful since well before leaving Ipswich. Arsenal did well to offload him without paying someone to take him off them.

    Thats nearly two full seasons he's been a shocking player, though I've not seen him at the start of this season.