England Squad

ianbeany · 8 Sep 2020 at 22:46

McBain said:
Worst thing you can do is bet on your own team/country. If they let you down it’s a double whammy.

Thats absolutely right. I usually bet against my club team (Newcastle)

But I couldn't give a monkeys whether England win or lose

ik9000 · 8 Sep 2020 at 22:50

ianbeany said:
Thats absolutely right. I usually bet against my club team (Newcastle)

But I couldn't give a monkeys whether England win or lose

you have my commiserations. One day MA will leave. Every year we look on from the outside and think "he'll sell this year surely?" but just like groundhog day...

ianbeany · 8 Sep 2020 at 22:59

ik9000 said:
you have my commiserations. One day MA will leave. Every year we look on from the outside and think "he'll sell this year surely?" but just like groundhog day...

Thanks buddy. Hate to say it but I've got very little interest in the club now while the big fella's still there. It's just a waste of time

McBain · 8 Sep 2020 at 23:05

I can relate to that somewhat, the Venkys basically ruined live football for me. Alternate Saturdays meant down the rovers without fail for years.... not anymore. Fit and proper test my rear.

ianbeany · 8 Sep 2020 at 23:18

McBain said:
I can relate to that somewhat, the Venkys basically ruined live football for me. Alternate Saturdays meant down the rovers without fail for years.... not anymore. Fit and proper test my rear.

I feel for you. Just about the only positive thing I can say about MA is he isn't the Venkys...

The_One · 13 Sep 2020 at 13:11

Theres now a Snapchat video of mason greenwood inhaling laughing gas

he needs dropping on his ass and not being anywhere near the full england setup

McBain · 18 Sep 2020 at 13:37

Ole doing a good job of blaming England for Greenwoods behaviour I see.

ik9000 · 18 Sep 2020 at 13:41

how about blaming the individual? surely a better bet? Or is he trying to say 'the bigger boys made him do it'?

McBain · 18 Sep 2020 at 13:46

OGS.

“have to understand he’s an 18-year-old kid who needs managing”.

“I’ve worked and the club have worked and all the staff here worked really hard,” Solskjaer said.

“We gave Mason enough time on the pitch, we gave him exposure in the media. Then you come to the end of the season and we’ve had less than two weeks off and he’s called up to the national team.

“I have to be honest enough to say I tried my best to give him a rest over the summer. That the club we asked specifically and pointed out that he should have had a rest.

“He needs it mentally and physically after that season he had. First thing that happens is 1) he’s called up, and 2) he’s right there in the press.

“We’ve done whatever we can to protect him and I will keep on helping him. I know that when he comes back into the daily routine of the club and what we do to him, he’ll be fine.”

ik9000 · 18 Sep 2020 at 13:50

that's a good manager tbh. He's not said what he did is ok. He's not said he won't give him a kicking. He's doing what a good manager should though and deflecting the question onto what the club will do to help the player improve.

omnomnom · 18 Sep 2020 at 13:52

ik9000 said:
that's a good manager tbh. He's not said what he did is ok. He's not said he won't give him a kicking. He's doing what a good manager should though and deflecting the question onto what the club will do to help the player improve.

Completely disagree. He has basically blamed England and the media for him getting a few prostitutes, breaking that bubble and inhaling balloons. He has to take some responsibility for his actions.

McBain · 18 Sep 2020 at 13:54

ik9000 said:
that's a good manager tbh. He's not said what he did is ok. He's not said he won't give him a kicking. He's doing what a good manager should though and deflecting the question onto what the club will do to help the player improve.

Weak manager if you ask me. Doesn't want to deal with it so just blames someone else.

ik9000 · 18 Sep 2020 at 13:54

I don't see that in the quote you put there. Is there more to it than just that quote?

McBain · 18 Sep 2020 at 13:56

Its in the quote.

Needed a rest

“We gave Mason enough time on the pitch, we gave him exposure in the media. Then you come to the end of the season and we’ve had less than two weeks off and he’s called up to the national team.

“I have to be honest enough to say I tried my best to give him a rest over the summer. That the club we asked specifically and pointed out that he should have had a rest.

Press/call up

“He needs it mentally and physically after that season he had. First thing that happens is 1) he’s called up, and 2) he’s right there in the press.

ik9000 · 18 Sep 2020 at 13:56

Not to take away from the fact of "WTF surely everyone knows it's not a great idea to hire hookers full stop, nevermind when on England duty, especially not during an international pandemic lockdown" but in that quote he doesn't say what Greenwood did was ok, he just shifts onto he's been dumb, now he's back we'll try and drum some sense into him. That is a good thing no?

Granted if it were me I'd be more critical but OGS rarely is of anyone.

McBain · 1 Oct 2020 at 12:50

Squad for the next 3 games being announced at 2...

Want to see Calvert-Lewin and Ings in, also maybe James as he's looked good for Chelsea. Foden and Greenwood should be noway near.

robfosters · 1 Oct 2020 at 14:02

robfosters said:
Can’t be long before we start talking about DCL for England

That didn’t take long lol.

interesting to see Saka in there. Doubt he’ll get on the pitch though.

ik9000 · 1 Oct 2020 at 14:56

It's funny DCL has been one of those under-achievers (or over-hyped players) for a while, suddenly it's like the tap's been turned on. Hopefully it's not a one-season wonder affair.

CliffyG · 1 Oct 2020 at 15:41

He's had 3 decent games and gets a call up, don't agree with that at all.

Andybtsn · 1 Oct 2020 at 15:55

CliffyG said:
He's had 3 decent games and gets a call up, don't agree with that at all.

Surely we look at current inform players rather than those who have played the longest? Who would be better alternatives?