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Was the Escort? It had quite a long production run and was limited only by sales volume no?
Escort Cosworth
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Was the Escort? It had quite a long production run and was limited only by sales volume no?
It seems a lot of the appeal is based on myth?
[TW]Fox;16722351 said:
lol no.
They made initial homologation production, although a few more than the min 500 cars. Couple of thousand I think. Then dropped a slightly nuetured engine in and ran a couple thousand more. From 92 - 96. Then they couldn't get the thing to run quiet enough for EU regs. so they ditched it. Afaik.
Still, hardly your repmobile mondeo like production.
It is a special car wether you like it or not.
Not strictly true.
Certain models of Impreza were limited production runs.
RB320, WR1, P1.
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Which Impreza Turbo's were limited production runs / homologation, years 92-96?
Because I can't think of any.
And that's what we were talking about.
As for your edit - which ones? when?
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[TW]Fox;16722364 said:
Not in my mind, no. Sure it didnt win a WRC like evo/scoob/delta/etc, but it's a faithful road-going rally rep, certainly was for it's time. Successful/competitive enough to be noticed.
In fact, id wager lots of people of a certain age (oooh, huge generalisation here
...30-40 years old?) would visualise this as "the" rally rep. Didn't it gain huge notoriety too for being night-on uninsurable when released?
Caporegime
[TW]Fox;16722351 said:
Just had a quick look and they made around 8,000 Escort Cosworths (for all markets), i'm not sure if this is a production run or sales volume limited figure, any ideas?
Either way i'm not sure that matters, be it production or sales volume limited less escort cosworths exist than Imprezas hence a higher asking price.
Look at the Tommi makinen evo prices vs the normal evo, is the TM edition really worth the premium or are you simply paying for the name and colour scheme?
I don't agree with the inflated price of the Escort Cosworth, i wouldn't pay 15k for one, however i think its a fantastic car and i love the looks.
Old cars are always going to be technically eclipsed by new ones, but thats progress for you, for example the E34 M5 looks positively lame now but was the benchmark in its day.
People seem to think some reason for its value is rally pedigree when in reality it failed to who a single championship?
And calm down, I am as entitled to think its value is undeserving as you are to think It's worthy.
1000 WRX STi Version 2 V-limited were produced. 555 (the cigarette brand that was the premier sponsor of the Subaru World Rally Team and became synonymous with the Impreza WRC livery) WRX Type RA STi Version 2 V-limited were produced.
Those were between 94 and 96 I believe.
Those were between 94 and 96 I believe.
Caporegime
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_RS_Cosworth
7,145
Slighly more than the Limited Production Run of 444 Impreza RB5's in '99
Hailed by Evo as one of the best Imprezas Ever (Link and the 13th best Drivers Car Ever. (Link)) Well ahead of the Escorth Cosworth as the 90th best car.
Yet RB5's go for 1/4 of the price of a cossie, sometimes less.
Scene Tax much ?
^Thats for them all. Not just the straight Cossy. Which is the first production run, regardless how some want to look at it / take it.
First cossy production run was less than that. In total, just over 7k cossies (inc RS) were made and sold worldwide.
Its not 8k, just over 7k. That was split over two production runs (The Cosworth and Cosworth RS), with the first being circa 2.5k.
Try getting it right.
Either which way, I don't get your problem with the car. Or in general.
That is quite limited for Ford.
Is the Clio Williams not a limited run, because they had the audacity to run the line three times to a total of 1500 cars?
where does your definition start and end fox?
First cossy production run was less than that. In total, just over 7k cossies (inc RS) were made and sold worldwide.
[TW]Fox;16722435 said:
Its not 8k, just over 7k. That was split over two production runs (The Cosworth and Cosworth RS), with the first being circa 2.5k.
Try getting it right.
Either which way, I don't get your problem with the car. Or in general.
That is quite limited for Ford.
Is the Clio Williams not a limited run, because they had the audacity to run the line three times to a total of 1500 cars?
where does your definition start and end fox?
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Out on a limb here, but going on the whole "why is it's value justified" vibe, maybe another couple of "reasons" to add to the pot.
1). In a way, Ford never really replaced the roadgoing version did they. The amount of comments i've read over the years clamouring for a Focus RS 4wd...*
2). Also "the Focus don av a cossie engine innit"
*(irrespective of whether the FRS Mk1/2 is faster or not in their FWD'ness)
1). In a way, Ford never really replaced the roadgoing version did they. The amount of comments i've read over the years clamouring for a Focus RS 4wd...*
2). Also "the Focus don av a cossie engine innit"
*(irrespective of whether the FRS Mk1/2 is faster or not in their FWD'ness)
Soldato
Ford's attempt at challenging the Lancia Delta Intergrale. Came out just as Lancia retired and the Intergrale was practically a classic car. The Cosworth still couldn't match its Performance.
Caporegime
Poor Unloved RB5 
http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1773437.htm
Only 444 ever made, Named after the great Richard Burns, 13th best drivers car ever.
Only 5k.
http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/1773437.htm
Only 444 ever made, Named after the great Richard Burns, 13th best drivers car ever.
Only 5k.
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I quite like this car, or at least I did, but after reading some of what Fox has said he's quite convinced me that there really is no reason to like this thoughly ordinary car, my misatake. Burn them all.
Just ignore him, a lot do when it comes to his opinions like this.
[TW]Fox;16722364 said:
You've kinda hit the nail on the head there, back in the day it wasn't actually that much faster than the competition, you could buy a car for the same price with equal performance, it wasn't super successful in racing, it looked like a member of the max power saxo crew had done the styling and today there are stock Clio's that could beat in in a drag or circuit race.
Having said that though its still one of the cars that would be in my dream garage, In NFS shift I took it over the Focus RS, simply because its a cossie, its got that factor that nobody can explain but everybody understands, the styling is stupid but in a attractive way, its no 0-60 powerhouse but its fast enough.
Id say its appeal is half based on myth, half based on legend and half based on love (and I did that on purpose)