Soldato
There will be far too much weight to the car. Its in the regulations but everyone has agreed not to proceed with it. Its the correct decision.
F1 2010 season abit boring?
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There will be far too much weight to the car. Its in the regulations but everyone has agreed not to proceed with it. Its the correct decision.
Man of Honour
I'm reserving judgement until there have been some more races - Bahrain is a completely inappropriate venue to host the first race of the year.
It would be foolish to write off a whole season on the basis of one race.
It would be foolish to write off a whole season on the basis of one race.
Funny you mention Whitmarsh, i was talking to CH today and he said that he had warned the teams in a technical meeting that the rule changes would make racing very boring. Red Bull then wrote to all the teams proposing a mandatory 2 stop race and every single team [McLaren included] refused to back us.
To be fair CSl, I wouldve done the same and declined the mandatory pitstop rule.
I would've first seen if my car is the fastest on the track. If not and it benefits my team to have 2 pitstops, then I would've signed up to it. If however, I am in a position where we have the best car/driver combination (I'm looking at Ferrari here), then I would oppose any changes to what we have right now.
In summary:
Cat1: if you are scoring lots of points and winning races: oppose any changes to rules/regs.
Cat2: if you are losing races, doing badly and struggling with overtaking, then ask for changes to be made to rules/regs.
Cat3: if you have no idea where your car currently is in relation to other teams/cars, hold station, oppose changes until you have had time to evaluate whether you fall into Category1 or Category2. After you have decided which Category you fall into, take the necessary actions (as above).
Clearly JB who has permanently been rusty and will continue to get his handed to him by Lewis has also agreed
Soldato
It's on a Sunday afternoon, people need to fall asleep in front of the TV to recharge their batteries for work on Monday
I believe that exactly the same explanation applies to cricket.
The IPL is good cricket. I watched that on Sunday, flicking between that and the F1.
Your assumption that Ferrari have the best car is odd, well given what i know anyway
Hehehe.
If you read my post carefully, you will see I never said Ferrari had the best car. I said they had the best driver/car (combination).
In which case, Whitmarsh would've been in Category3 (if you have no idea where your car currently is in relation to other teams/cars, hold station, oppose changes until you have had time to evaluate whether you fall into Category1 or Category2).
Maybe Horner should ask Whitmarsh now - the answer may be different, though I doubt it. I think other teams need another 2-3 races to evaluate where they actually are, in relation to the other teams. You can't base your performance on a single race, held on a single track.
Clearly JB who has permanently been rusty and will continue to get his handed to him by Lewis has also agreed
JB said in the bbc forum it was just the compounds were too hard. Forced pitstops would almost be as pathetic as forcing a car to use the wrong compound.
Clearly JB who has permanently been rusty and will continue to get his handed to him by Lewis has also agreed
In fairness to Button, he wasnt "rusty" during the first half of last year.
Though since his last win, its almost as if someone has stolen his skill and locked it away in a dark and unknown place. I'm not sure what happened to him after the Turkish GP.
Soldato
A few things which I think is wrong with the sport:
Test sessions should only be done with test/reserve drivers (unless the current driver has never raced at the circuit), currently there's no suitable way of getting new drivers race experience without huge sponsorship and thrown in at the deep end.
Qualifying puts the fastest cars at the front of the grid, with no strategy of course there's going to be little difference to the order when a car can have as many shots as possible getting to the front. Shootouts were dull but at least it only gave a driver one shot at getting to the front and any screwup in the lap would put them out of place for the race, encouraging overtaking.
A quick fix would be a shootout with a single lap each deciding the order, an extreme situation would be to have a shootout quali on the sat followed by a sprintrace (half the points of the race weekend) followed by a random selection where drivers pick their place out of a bag or similar to make the grid for sunday's race. (other half of race weekend points)
If you want overtaking then the only way you'll get it is for drivers to be out of place (bad qualifying) or for tech on car to allow overtaking. Possibly bring back KERS but it can only be used (and more powerful) when you're within 1sec of following another car, and it can't be used to defend.
Test sessions should only be done with test/reserve drivers (unless the current driver has never raced at the circuit), currently there's no suitable way of getting new drivers race experience without huge sponsorship and thrown in at the deep end.
Qualifying puts the fastest cars at the front of the grid, with no strategy of course there's going to be little difference to the order when a car can have as many shots as possible getting to the front. Shootouts were dull but at least it only gave a driver one shot at getting to the front and any screwup in the lap would put them out of place for the race, encouraging overtaking.
A quick fix would be a shootout with a single lap each deciding the order, an extreme situation would be to have a shootout quali on the sat followed by a sprintrace (half the points of the race weekend) followed by a random selection where drivers pick their place out of a bag or similar to make the grid for sunday's race. (other half of race weekend points)
If you want overtaking then the only way you'll get it is for drivers to be out of place (bad qualifying) or for tech on car to allow overtaking. Possibly bring back KERS but it can only be used (and more powerful) when you're within 1sec of following another car, and it can't be used to defend.
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The teams didn't like Kers, but spectators did, apparently FOTA will make changes if the first three races prove boring...
I like this idea, the sprint race could be just 50 miles or so following the qualifying shootout. Sunday's grid could be Saturday's finishing places, but with reversed at a random point like they do with touring cars.
The risk would be to make Saturday more exciting than Sunday!
According to a interview with whitmarsh on the red button mclaren seem to favour the mandatory 2 stop race and he mentioned that a few teams had put the idea forward listing mclaren redbull and another unnamed.
Touring cars can get close and overtake each other, until they strip the aero that could never happen with F1. If your going to do that with F1 might as well save everyone 400 billion and just pick a lottery number to decide who won and save running the race in the first place.
Why destroy someones championship by moving the fastest car down the back at monaco or hungary.
F1 wasn't always boring.
Senna, 1993
Arnoux and Villeneuve, 1979
Simply awesome stuff.
Senna, 1993
Arnoux and Villeneuve, 1979
Simply awesome stuff.
The Arnoux Villeneuve battle would never happen again because those drivers gave a cars width, respect because locking wheels would easily kill you. As you saw with Massa on Hamilton at the start of the GP the only defensive driving these gimps know is to cut the road off or edge over in the hope thge other driver yeilds or ends up on the grass.