PrettyInPink said:"The Dry dock" (try to say were your going when you've had a few)
Nix said:That's because the nazi image is fashionable in eastern countries atm. I actually find the blatent use of that dictators image to gain a profit and associating him with a 'good time' very disrespectful to all those who died in world war two as a result of him. I doubt many of those people are aware just how lucky they are to able to enjoy making 'fun' of Hitler's image, today would look very differently if that man had his way.
I stand to be corrected though balddog.
Balddog said:The swastika is a buddhist symbol, maybe thats why you think nazis are popular over here..
People dont really know that much about the war in europe over here..Just like most europeans dont know what happened over here.
That bar was in another city but if it was closer to me, i probably would have gne to check it out..I dont see it as being particularly disrespectful..
Heres an interesting article..I should mention this bar was around 5 years ago or so..its not there now.
http://www.time.com/time/asia/magazine/2000/0605/southkorea.trouble.html
Nix said:I know all about the swastica, and it being a buddist symbol. The definitive nazi symbol is of the swastica, at an angle on a white circle on a red background. The swastica on its own is not a symbol of nazi-ism, it is a religious symbol. The swastica is not what has been made fashionable is it? Nazi-ism itself has become the subject of fashion. Case in point being the "Adolf Hitler Cafe"
Ignorance isn't an excuse, if anything, ignorance is just as disrespectful to those that died.
Thanks for the link, reading now.
Balddog said:No, nazism isnt fashionable...
The uniforms are fashionable..I dunno anyone whod disagree with that..Them nazis sure knew how to dress well..
Adolf Hitler cafe is hardly nazism...Im pretty sure there was no national socialist ideology being discussed between cups of tea..
Do you respect the Korean soldiers that died fighting the Japanese in WW2?
Nix said:I understand it's not the ideology being idolised.
It's not nazism itself that's fasionable, more the glorification of nazism, I think.
Either way, good natured or not I find it incredibley distasteful.
tuckenator said:
PrettyInPink said:"The Dry dock" (try to say were your going when you've had a few)
Balddog said:Different cultures and histories..
vonhelmet said:On a slight tangent, there's a pub somewhere in Cheshire called "The headless woman", which bugs me, on account of it's sign. The sign has a woman with her head under her arm. SHE IS CLEARLY NOT HEADLESS, HER HEAD IS MERELY NOT LOCATED IN THE NORMAL PLACE! ARGH! HULK SMASH!
Nix said:As much as that is a valid reason, that excuse wouldn't have rubbed if Hitler had defeated the Allies. It's called a world war for a reason. The sheer numbers of people who died, soldiers and innocent alone is reason enough why we should remember.
Not knowing about what happened or worse not even caring to me shows to the most complete disrespect imaginable. I read about WW2 and wish to know the fine details as I feel it's the least I can do. To not even bother is disgusting. I could understand if the people were completely unaware of the circumstances which unfolded, but they obviously know something happened as they're decorating their cafés with nazi interiors.
Balddog said:Why wouldnt it have rubbed? Id imagine if Hitler had won, a cafe with nazi decorations wouldnt have been much of a problem :dunno:
Ok Nix...Tell me...How much Korean history gets taught in British highschools? How much of the pacific war? Im my highschool it was around 0%...We learnt about WW1 but that was it...Then I did A level history, again nothing on WW2, let along the eastern front...I happen to enjoy war related history so im pretty educated on that topic..self educated I might add..
Please dont get all angry because the schools of another nation, who suffered a million times worse than us during WW2, doesnt educate its kids to the full extent of hitlerism..
Its digusting not to bother? Perhaps you should be speaking to our own countrymen about that? Most of the current generation havent the slightest clue what happened in europe during WW2, let alone the far east..
Nix said:None to minimal, which is why I said I could understand if those of other cultures were totally oblivious to what happened. But, the people who visit these venues obviously know who Hilter was, would you decorate the interior of your business or home with some 'idol' without even knowing why they're being idolised?
I speak for everyone, not just those of other cultures. If anything the people here are just disrespectful idiots. It makes me sick when someone says they don't care what happened. You should care. It affected millions, it affects us today. You should respect what these people did, and how are we not meant to re-live these mistakes if we don't learn from those already made? Those who don't care are just disgusting people and don't know how lucky they really are. If these people had any idea how many people died, they wouldn't spout such disrespectful, naive, ignorant drivel.
Yewen said:On the subject of the pacific war, we were taught about it briefly, and depending on the module taken quite a lot relating to the cold war and its buildup was also covered.
Pre-GCSE also we spent ages covering the eastern front and the Soviet Unions envolvement in world politics in Hitlers rise to power.
Depends on the school, and how interested you are in history really.