Fiesta ST 2.0 thoughts

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A starlet glanza does 0-60 in 6.8 seconds and believe that's a time rivalled by only the corsa vxr and Clio 182 but beaten by neither I maybe wrong however
however it's probly the most tuneable

we could bring a Nissan pulsar into the equattion but again that's old
and I question it's stance as a hot hatch tbh

IMO there are the following choices in the hot hatch world

newish (2007 on)
Clio 197/200
focus st/rs
corsa vxr
golf gti
fiesta st ( with upgrades)

Oldish 2000-2007
Peugeot 306 rallyee/ gti6
saxo vts
focus st170/rs
Peugeot 106 gti
xsara vts( ugly 306)
older shape fiesta st ie non facelift
Clio 172/182

Old pre 2000
starlet glanza
peugeot 205
306 s16
older saxos
pulsar gtir
golf mk2
renualt 5 turbo

All of which are good and some are slow by today's standards (205/ golf mk2)


Basically the question remains
Do you want a fiesta st because you like them?
Do you want a properly hot hatch ( although the st isn't miles away from hot)

if number 1 get a fiesta
if number 2 get either a Clio 182/197 or a Toyota starlet

don't let people say that the fiesta is not the fastest there fore you shouldn't buy one
If you want one buy one and have fun in it

There's more than that?

Audi S3
Octavia vRS
Mondeo ST220 (pre-2007 admittedly)
Astra VXR (you've named the Corsa, why not the bigger, faster brother?)
BMW 13x
Seat Leon FR/Cupra/Cupra R
Megane R26/R26R

Surely they're all decent hot hatches as well (although admittedly some are dangerously close to warm rather than hot)?

Neither of you mentioned the Civic Type R. And you call yourself petrolheads :p
 
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Gah, yes - I realised i'd forgotten a few.

Civic Type-R
Mazda 3 MPS
Subaru Impreza (now a hatch)
Mini Cooper S/S JCW
Alfa 147 GTA

Happy now? :p
 
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Granted I forgot about a civic
but i don't consider a mondeo or a octy a hatch really I know they Are but there more like saloons in my eyes
IMO a proper hot hatch should be chuckable light fwd and no bigger than a new Clio / corsa

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we also missed a civic sir
prelude type r IMO a bit saloon ish
civic type r ek9
corrados
mito with the turbo
and various seat cupras
lupo gtis and so on
 
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Yeah they blur the lines somewhat in my view but I certainly think the Focus/S3/Leon/Megane are all hot hatches. :)

Then again, the R26R takes it a whole step further with the removal of essentials and creature comforts. At what point does it stop being a hatch and start becoming just a "track toy"?
 
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Yeah they blur the lines somewhat in my view but I certainly think the Focus/S3/Leon/Megane are all hot hatches. :)

Then again, the R26R takes it a whole step further with the removal of essentials and creature comforts. At what point does it stop being a hatch and start becoming just a "track toy"?
I agree with what you say about the focus and megane etc
do you think mondeos are hot hatches or am I the only one who has some form of objection lol

and I totally agree with the megane thing
I don't think it's directly comparable to any other car in general conversation
 
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Urgh, if someone asks for a hot hatch recommendation I don't tend to consider the Mondeo, I tend to consider the Focus and other cars that compete in it's class.

Technically though, the ST220 is a hot hatch.
 
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ive heard it all now.

It is, "technically". :)

It's a hatchback and it's certainly quick enough to keep up with the likes of the Focus ST, which is considered a hot hatch.

So it ticks the right boxes.

I'd never recommend it to someone who asks for a "hot hatch" recommendation though. :)
 
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Not getting involved in the clio debate as I don't personally like them but the ST is a very good car, nippy and good handling as standard :)

A mate has had one from new which he has fitted coilovers and a supercharger conversion to himself and its currently mapped @ 255bhp quite happily on the standard internals and can keep up with 350bhp Evo's/scoobs! He embarrasses all sorts of things in it, great fun!

Anyway go with what you like the look/feel of mate, with cars especially opinions are like *********, everyone has one so you will never get the answer you are looking for when you ask in public! Just go and drive a few and make your mind up yourself but certainly the ST is a nice car, my 2p :D
 
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Well done I envy you!

I consider a prelude a coupe like a integra etc and IMO that doesn't make it a proper hot hatch like a shopping trolley gokart is
that was the basis of my arguements
also the prelude types confuse me I think I mean sir
 
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