I'm looking at new (second hand) cars and I can get insured on both of the above at around £1k, now there is about £2000 difference between a Cooper S and the equivelent ST on second hand values, infact, I think the brand new values also have a similar difference. Thing is, are you getting £2000 more car in the mini? Keep seeing lots on the road but no many Cooper S's, can't recall seeing a Fiesta ST at all... love the supercharger whine on the Cooper S but people have called the new mini girly? Whereas with the Fiesta ST I've read that it's quite a detatched driving experience and that the equivelent diesel is more fun What are peoples oppinions on these two cars? They seem around about the same power given the mini's extra weight.