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Formula 1

Discussion in 'Motors' started by kinetic747, 15 Aug 2006.

  1. kinetic747

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    Remember when it was fun? :cool: This is Gilles Villeneuve and Rene Arnoux at the 1979 French Grand Prix, some of the braking is unbelievable. :eek:
     
  2. JRS

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    One of the better wheel-to-wheel battles in F1 history that....:)

    GV really ought to have had a title in his (all too short) career. If Pironi hadn't stolen Imola '82 from him and started the feud that killed Villeneuve at the next race then he would pretty much have been assured of the title, the Ferrari was very good that year.
     
  3. austinpowers

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    That's fantastic :eek: :)

    Felt all emotional after watching that :( :p
     
  4. saitrix

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    See that's racing. Not these F1 races now which have about 3 overtaking manuvours.
     
  5. gord

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    Simply awesome.

    I still enjoy the racing today.. and i do get excited about it.. i think if i saw that live on telly though i would explode..
     
  6. oweneades

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    One of the reasons I have stopped watching it now tbh. BTCC is where its at :) (I am shocked sometimes at how close the racing is on touring cars, inches away from eachothers bumpers for most of the race...fantastic)
     
  7. fuz

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    Salut Gilles!

    And to think both drivers were told off by Lauda et al afterwards :rolleyes:
     
  8. Phil W

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    Thats on one of Clarksons video's (most extreme i think) he said that was the most overtaking ever done in a single lap in F1 history.
     
  9. JRS

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    I'd have said that Lauda had every right to be a conservative sort of guy after Nurburgring '76.
     
  10. djjuk

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    Absolutely spot on... :)
     
  11. saitrix

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    What happened out of interest in 76?
     
  12. fuz

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    Maybe so, and he has my respect for how he treats his accident nowdays, but his accident was far different from what these two were doing, and he admitted as much in the years afterwards about Gilles
     
  13. JRS

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    What didn't happen....

    Lauda was embroiled in the title fight with James Hunt, and was leading the championship when they got to the German GP. He had a huge accident, suffered horrific burns and was given the last rites.

    He was driving 4 weeks later at Monza.....missed out on the title as he pulled out of the exceedingly wet Japanese GP saying it was too dangerous to carry on. Made amends by winning the title in '77 though.
     
  14. fuz

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    Lauda's crash at the Nurburgring spelled the end for the circuit in F1. He lost control of the car at the sweeping left hander just before bergwerk (you'll recognise it from GPL!) and flipped the car into the hillside hit another car and caught fire.

    A few drivers came over to try and help (Lunger, Edwards and Merzario) and pulled him out of the car, but his helmet became loose and let fire + gases in, severly burning his face causing him to lose an ear. He went into a coma not long after and was given the last rites in hospital, although amazingly enough he was back in a ferrari 6 weeks later and lost out to James Hunt at the infamous Japanese Grand Prix later that year. Courageous stuff.
     
  15. saitrix

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  16. JRS

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    Horrible smash. Of the non-fatal accidents in racing, that was probably the worst for a GP driver since the Stirling Moss accident at Goodwood in early '62.
     
  17. rpstewart

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    Better? Better? There is nothing better than that.

    What isn't reported much is what else is going on:

    This is the FRENCH Grand Prix
    Footage provided by FRENCH TV
    Directed by a FRENCHMAN
    The race is won by a FRENCHMAN
    The first race win for a RENAULT and a turbo car

    It just goes to show how good this battle was that Jabouille gets about 5 seconds of footage as he crosses the line.
     
  18. fuz

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    And thank god he did or the only history of the race we would have today would be down to eyewitness accounts. I hate to think of all the lost footage not saved by the bbc or missed on live broadcasts. Jim Clark at Monza 67 comes to mind, the only footage i've seen is him slipstreaming in the straights, with no attention paid to the fact he overtook the whole field to take the lead after going a lap down changing a tyre early on :(
     
  19. tonyyeb

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    True. But wait until they introduce the new rear wing design that gets rid of 'dirty air' to allow better slipstream and (promise) of more overtaking!
     
  20. saitrix

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    And links/pics?