Full new build or ... ?

jayhughes79 · 2 Sep 2020 at 19:12

Hi all

I have had this PC a while and have been planning upgrading for a quite a bit as well. Original specs are:

i5-4670 (non-k)
16GB G-skill RAM
MSI Z87-G43
Corsair HX750
1070 SC
3 SSD ,1 HDD

Unfortunately the GPU has just died. I originally wanted to upgrade to a Ryzen board and CPU first, keeping the 1070 and upgrading that down the line. Can't do this now so am thinking if anything is worth salvaging?

Is it right that the higher end Ryzen chips need a GPU as they don't have that function? As this means I can't do that upgrade first without buying a GPU as well.

Also if I go full new PC I can use all my drives but I will need a new Windows installation. Is that right? I was trying to save some cash by not including drives or Windows but I don't think that will work. (Is that the case for new mobo/CPU as well?)

Lot's of questions sorry

mickyflinn · 2 Sep 2020 at 19:40

Only certain Ryzen cpus have dedicated graphics the'ys are g variants such as the 3200g.

If you are using window 10 then you can takeit with you to a new pc you just have to register the change of hardware.

Nvidia are releasing there new you mid September so that should lower gpu prices

orbitalwalsh · 2 Sep 2020 at 20:07

Of you really wanted to save cash, second hand i7 4***k and overclock it ! Rest of cash on 3070 !

But if youve got a 1080p monitor that might be wasted and might be worth seeing second hand market as 2080ti and under are dropping prices hard !!!!

What's games do you play or intend to play ?
What's your monitor Hz and resolution ?
And then budget ?

jayhughes79 · 2 Sep 2020 at 20:55

Thanks for replies. Good questions there.

After closer inspection I think the mobo is dead as well - otherwise an i7 k might be the way to go with a beast GPU

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I only game 1080p 60hz, I play a lot of online shooters but also strategy and all sorts really. Budget 800 ish. I was thinking of biting the bullet and getting a cheapish 3600 build with a 1660 or something, then later on dropping in a new GPU.

mickyflinn · 2 Sep 2020 at 21:16

Ryzen 3600 £200
32gb 3200mhz teamgroup ram £99 or 16gb for £56
MSI B550M PRO-VDH WIFI £110
Psu Phantecs 650w gold £100
B grade rx 580 £110 grate for 1080p

What hard drives do you have ssd ?
New case or reuse yours.

jayhughes79 · 2 Sep 2020 at 21:26

I have a new 1TB 860 QVO (unused) but also have in the old build

64GB Samsung SSD (Boot drive, not big enough actually)
256GB spare SSD
500GB seagate HDD - just old games and stuff, probably could retire as it is really old

mickyflinn · 2 Sep 2020 at 22:02

So the parts i listed come to approx £600
Pick a case you like and save the rest towards a better gpu.

The b grade rx 580 only has a 90 day warranty.

Windows £10 keys can be had for £10 , you will need to download windows10 put on a usb flash drive to install.

orbitalwalsh · 3 Sep 2020 at 06:27

Corsair 750hx is good enough if still in warranty !!

jayhughes79 · 7 Sep 2020 at 19:29

Cheers all.

Ryzen 3600
some 550 mobo and 16gb 3200Mhz RAM
new Phanteks case

coming in the post. I kept the PSU. Still need to get a GPU, can't decide if to get a cheapo 2nd hand then try and get a 3070, or spend 2-300 on a 2nd hand 1070/1080 and keep it a while..... :/

Thanks

orbitalwalsh · 8 Sep 2020 at 07:00

jayhughes79 said:
Cheers all.

Ryzen 3600
some 550 mobo and 16gb 3200Mhz RAM
new Phanteks case

coming in the post. I kept the PSU. Still need to get a GPU, can't decide if to get a cheapo 2nd hand then try and get a 3070, or spend 2-300 on a 2nd hand 1070/1080 and keep it a while..... :/

Thanks

Wait till 3070 comes out and see second hand prices. If stock are low.. and it's price increases then secon hand market will hold pricing

jayhughes79 · 9 Sep 2020 at 17:33

Makes sense to wait I suppose. I think I will chuck in something very low end just to get everything working and so I can watch stuff - I use this for general entertainment as well, not sure I can last to Oct..

orbitalwalsh · 9 Sep 2020 at 19:42

jayhughes79 said:
Makes sense to wait I suppose. I think I will chuck in something very low end just to get everything working and so I can watch stuff - I use this for general entertainment as well, not sure I can last to Oct..

Oct is also paper launch for AMD cards and Zen3.. though GPU will actually hit shelves a bit afterwards :/
Don't think they can sell before PS5/Xbox series is launched

jayhughes79 · 14 Sep 2020 at 22:18

Well thanks for the tips we are up and running. I have put in an old 760 to see me through to the new GPU releases (and payday).

Grafter67 · 15 Sep 2020 at 07:07

I love your thinking. I swapped out a 580 for a 2080 Ti (£480) yesterday and will likely swap back, since I've discovered I don't have enough fingers for witcher3, so no chance for cyberpunk.

orbitalwalsh · 15 Sep 2020 at 10:05

jayhughes79 said:
Well thanks for the tips we are up and running. I have put in an old 760 to see me through to the new GPU releases (and payday).

Snaps or it never happened ! Haha

jayhughes79 · 16 Sep 2020 at 23:57

Grafter67 said:
I love your thinking. I swapped out a 580 for a 2080 Ti (£480) yesterday and will likely swap back, since I've discovered I don't have enough fingers for witcher3, so no chance for cyberpunk.

I played Witcher 3 with a Playstation controller, and it worked really well for me. Have you tried that?

Grafter67 · 17 Sep 2020 at 07:49

jayhughes79 said:
I played Witcher 3 with a Playstation controller, and it worked really well for me. Have you tried that?

Not yet, but Thanks for the tip and I certainly will.