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gaming at 1680x1050

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by foxxx, 16 May 2006.

  1. foxxx

    Gangster

    Joined: 19 Nov 2005

    Posts: 152

    i've sorta come into a bit of money and im thinking of treating myself to a new 20 inch widescreen tft and im wondering about what to do on the graphics side of things.

    for playing:(@1680x1050)
    BF2 as high as possible
    CSS as smooth and with a bit of AA n AF
    DoD:S ditto ditto ditto
    FEAR as well as possible, if not high at something like 1440x900 scaled
    CoD2 as high as possible
    Lock on modern air combat at native res with high textures and at least 2xAA

    which of these 3 choices would be best?
    1. keep my current setup
    in sig, AMD64 3000+ @ 2.25-2.4ghz(i need a new case and some AS5), 2GB crucial DDR570 (capable), 7800GT @ 460-1200 for 100% artifact free-ness. or a little more for certain apps.

    2. sell the 7800GT on Ebay or MM if i get access for somewhere in the region of £150-180 (they're still going strong)
    a) buy a 7900GT (£200ish) get and Artic cooling Accelero or zalman VF-900 and live with something like 580/1300 and be capable of doing a 20inch 1680x1050 proud, will this be enough
    or
    b) i) buy a X1800XT 256(£190ish) will this be enough
    ii) buy a X1800XT 512(£240ish) will this be worth it?

    3. other? 512 worth it? an upgrade worth it>?
     
  2. AMDPower

    Mobster

    Joined: 24 Feb 2004

    Posts: 2,642

    not a Great graphics expert, but

    for the resolution you stated a x1800xt or 7900gt should do you just fine, i would personally go for a ATI. If you plan on keeping the gfx card for a while then it would be advisable to go with 512mb as future games would require it for the extra eye candy, or if you plan to hold onto it for over a year then maybe a x1900xt would be a wiser choice.

    having said that it really depends on what degree of detail you set in games. i would imagine that even a x1900xt would even find it hard to run at very high frame rates with max detail in a game like FEAR.
     
  3. no_1_dave

    Soldato

    Joined: 7 Jul 2004

    Posts: 6,797

    Location: Gloucestershire

    Go for the 512Mb 7900 GT. They can overclock almost to a 7900 GTX ;)
     
  4. Jack Bauer

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Nov 2005

    Posts: 1,675

    Location: Oxford

    Most of thos games will be fine at 1600 on a x1800xt 512, however you wont stand a chance of running fear at that res, my fps aint great at 1280 and my PC aint exactly slow (spec below). Also COD2 will struggle at 1600 @ max setting altho I have tested it at 1600 and 1280 there aint much difference. fps were about the 40 mark on the first map either way which is playable off line.
     
  5. foxxx

    Gangster

    Joined: 19 Nov 2005

    Posts: 152

    one point that i really should've put down.

    i like quiet pcs, how bad are the relatively notorious X1800s?

    atm my case is maybe 5db above being silent and can only occasionally hear the cpu fan whir a little and in games some of the gpu fan. and thats with it under my desk no side on and 2 hds
     
  6. sablabra

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 17 Dec 2005

    Posts: 1,223

    Then the x1800xt would totally ruin the silence :p
     
  7. PinkFloyd

    Capodecina

    Joined: 21 Sep 2005

    Posts: 14,269

    Location: Bradley Stoke, Bristol

    The answer to that would be to put a zalmon VF900 on it ;)

    From what I have heard is that they aren't as loud as some people make out, but they are by no means quiet
     
  8. Jack Bauer

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Nov 2005

    Posts: 1,675

    Location: Oxford

    the x1800s are fine as long as your case has a desent air flow and you house aint 30C :) They are only load when the temp on the core gets too high, and then it gives short 3 secs bursts at 100%. I could not hear mine over my case fans tbh
     
  9. wellibob

    Mobster

    Joined: 27 Mar 2006

    Posts: 4,019

    Run a 512 meg 7900GT, and overclock it . I`d still recommend a VF900 to go on it for cooler operation, and you can run these with fan speed at minimum. ATi is yer bag, the x1800xt 512 meg card, and for sure lob a VF900 on this, but this card draws more power , and will run a fair bit hotter than the 7900GT. The 256 meg versions of these cards are a fair bit cheaper, and as yet not many games need 512, but soon they will.
     
  10. sablabra

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 17 Dec 2005

    Posts: 1,223

    You're funny :)
     
  11. Bizarre

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 21 Jun 2005

    Posts: 1,333

    Location: Billingham

    Whats so funny about that?

    I could only hear my old X1800xt 512mb for about 3 seconds on start up. Same goes for my x1900xtx, infact my raptors are the noisiest parts in my PC(and thats with three 80mm case fans and one 120mm).
     
  12. no_1_dave

    Soldato

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    Location: Gloucestershire

    The 7900 GT is a better buy then a X1800 XT imo. A 512Mb 7900 GT would be enough for anything at the moment.
     
  13. Jack Bauer

    Wise Guy

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    Location: Oxford

    yer so there, seriously tho mine was not load at all unless my wife had left the heating on full for 12 hours
     
  14. sablabra

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 17 Dec 2005

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    x1800xt 512 is noisy, IMO!!
     
  15. foxxx

    Gangster

    Joined: 19 Nov 2005

    Posts: 152

    7800gt 512 is too expensive unless you guys no where to get em for <£220 they're out of question really
     
  16. no_1_dave

    Soldato

    Joined: 7 Jul 2004

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    Location: Gloucestershire

    Thats why we're saying the 7900 GT 512Mb.
    There on this site, only cost a little bit over a normal one...
     
  17. easyrider

    Caporegime

    Joined: 24 Dec 2005

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    The 512 mb is a good help and worth having at WS resolutions.
    My old 7900 GT was changed to a 7900 GTX for this very reason.

    The 7900 GT 512mb is a good choice as it can be pushed to GTX speeds without any problem.
     
  18. Vegeta

    Soldato

    Joined: 6 Nov 2004

    Posts: 5,761

    I think some of you guys must be deaf if you cant hear the x1800xt fan, I can hear it when its running at its lowest (33%), get some proper case fans and quiet components and get used to it - then tell me if its silent.
     
  19. Jack Bauer

    Wise Guy

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    Location: Oxford

    If I set mine to the lowest setting it is silent, and thats with all other fans unplugged. Must have a good one, I will sell you it for £20 Vegeta :D
     
    Last edited: 17 May 2006
  20. Vegeta

    Soldato

    Joined: 6 Nov 2004

    Posts: 5,761

    Im sorry but your equivalent of silent isnt mine, nothing is SILENT I hate that word lol, if you put your ear next to it - its definetly not silent.
    But the zalman vf900 will be the closest thing to silent you will get.