Gentoo!

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:04

Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
No the portage tree is held in /usr/portage and when you update portage it just updates all the ebullds in /usr/portage. When you install something via emerge the source files are held in /usr/portage/distfiles. During the install process the source files will be unpacked, patched etc in /var/tmp/portage.

Ah. What happens after emerging? Are the archives deleted or do they stick around?

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:05

Originally posted by robmiller
I went for the wuss' way out and went from stage 2 :$

nah stage 2 is good. ive only ever done stage 2, because i can use the athlon xp live cd for my athlon xp processor so the flags are set up pretty much the way i would configure it anyway.

and i guess its the same for you

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:06

They stick around, normally after installing gentoo I delete the contents of /usr/portage/distfiles. I'm rarely going to download them again, and if I need to rebuild a package it will be for the reason of an update and so the source files will be different anyway.

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:07

Originally posted by robmiller
Ah. What happens after emerging? Are the archives deleted or do they stick around?

lol, emerging is how you install most software so you need the archive there! you periodically update it of course.

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:09

Originally posted by riven
lol, emerging is how you install most software so you need the archive there! you periodically update it of course.

No, I meant the archives as in the file archives, the gunzipped whatsits

I figured, like Mpemba, that it'd be sort of a waste of hard drive space to have them lying around. I'll just delete them after I finish installing.

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:12

Originally posted by robmiller
No, I meant the archives as in the file archives, the gunzipped whatsits I figured, like Mpemba, that it'd be sort of a waste of hard drive space to have them lying around. I'll just delete them after I finish installing.

ohhh! sorry. i would leave them in there for the first few days incase something borks.

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:15

Okie doke, will do

I seem to remember seeing a script on the Gentoo forums that scans for cruft such as files that are no longer dependencies and whatnot so that you know what to delete, so I'll probably give that a whirl after I get everything set up.

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:18

Pah! I normally zap then after there installed. Whats the largest package you download? 30 odd megs for GCC? Doesn't take too long on broadband

Anyway Rob, is the emerge resuming nicely?

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:22

Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
? 30 odd megs for GCC? Doesn't take too long on broadband

some of us live in the middle of nowhere

come january the 12th though

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:23

Originally posted by riven
some of us live in the middle of nowhere

come january the 12th though

You installed it on dial up? :eek:

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:27

Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
You installed it on dial up?

64K ISDN, but its only a tad faster.

i just let most of it emerge overnight. infact i think the 1st night i just left it to sync, then emerged the bare essentials the next night.

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:32

Well it was going fine, but now I'm getting another time out getting openssl, ftp.win.**.jp is being annoying.

Is there a way to.. "pause" it whilst I add another mirror?

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:35

Originally posted by robmiller
Well it was going fine, but now I'm getting another time out getting openssl, ftp.win.**.jp is being annoying.

Is there a way to.. "pause" it whilst I add another mirror?

No way to pause it unfortunately. You can try adding a # to the beginning of of the GENTOO_MIRRORS= in make.conf. I think it will then try to download everything from ibiblio.org.

It must be something funny today with broken mirrors.

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:37

the latest portage resumes where it left off

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:37

Originally posted by Mpemba Effect
No way to pause it unfortunately. You can try adding a # to the beginning of of the GENTOO_MIRRORS= in make.conf. I think it will then try to download everything from ibiblio.org.

It must be something funny today with broken mirrors.

No need - it timed out 5 times and is now getting it from a different mirror, which is great

Thanks anyway

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:40

Originally posted by riven
the latest portage resumes where it left off

Thats only if you have ccache working?

Originally posted by robmiller
No need - it timed out 5 times and is now getting it from a different mirror, which is great Thanks anyway

You can add

http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/

as the first mirror in make.conf it's a UK mirror so should be fastest.

riven · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:41

Originally posted by robmiller
No need - it timed out 5 times and is now getting it from a different mirror, which is great Thanks anyway

but it will use the same mirror order for the next package, so it will be faster to comment it out

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:41

It aready tested the mirrors and sorted them by speed, but I'll add it if I have to restart it

EDIT: Argh, damn this keyboard!

Mpemba Effect · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:44

Whilst you're waiting post up the specs of your machine. Motherboard chipset, soundcard make model everything.

robmiller · 3 Aug 2004 at 20:44

Argh, god damn it. It got another 404 error. Should I try adding

http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/

first, or just comment out the mirror list?