1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

    Dismiss Notice

@Gibbo - Vega Preorders?

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Dave2150, 31 Jul 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. ubersonic

    Capodecina

    Joined: 26 May 2009

    Posts: 21,110

    Any chance you could link to that as I haven't seen it.

    To be honest I'm getting a bit tired of correcting people (does nobody read the thread before posting these days? lol) , but if you don't fight misinformation it can be quite dangerous.
     
  2. Howling

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 14 Sep 2008

    Posts: 2,453

    https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/posts/31023990/

    My post encompasses both relevant posts on the matter. To add on to it though: Power draw isn't really an argument against any card as far as mining goes, you can manage the power without really affecting hash speeds.
     
  3. ubersonic

    Capodecina

    Joined: 26 May 2009

    Posts: 21,110

    Ahh thanks, I hadn't seen that because you quoted one of the misinformation spreaders not me. Yes you're right Vega does perform similar to Fury, but this is the problem, the Vega 64 is going to have GTX1070 grade hashing performance, combined with double the power usage. This is why nobody is using the Vega FE for mining, because fro the same money and power draw you can buy a pair of GTX1070 and have double the performance.

    To to reiterate my initial point, the relatively poor mining performance to power consumption of Vega (for it's price point) means no (competent) miners will be interested, not unless Nvidia runs out of stock, so I am happy to be able to relieve anybody's fears there. Which is a good thing because it means more card for games (I have a Freesync panel and don't mine on my gaming rig so looking forward to the Vega 64 ^^).

    On an off topic note, it is kind of comical that before coming to check out the new posts on this forum I came from a mining forum where we were laughing at the FUD that any of us would want Vega cards for mining lol.
     
  4. LoadsaMoney

    Caporegime

    Joined: 8 Jul 2003

    Posts: 30,066

    Location: In a house

    They'd eat into the gaming market i thought, as the cards thats are being bought for mining, are the same exact cards, that are being bought for gaming, so they'd be taking gaming share from Nvidia, as their GeForce cards, which are for gaming, would be losing sales to AMDs.
     
    Last edited: 2 Aug 2017
  5. Howling

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 14 Sep 2008

    Posts: 2,453

    You ignored the bulk of what we said. You also seem to be stuck in the mindset of knowing the Vega performance and power levels. For reference, although since you mention being on a mining forum I'm sure you already know, the 1070 mined like 5MH/s on release - then it became 22-25MH/s -- it's now sitting at 30+ (I get 30MH/s on Eth while dual mining, so I'm not even at full speed). I don't think we can take Vega FE week 1 mining performance as gospel - especially when, on paper, it should be a very effective miner.

    Edit: To make my position clear. I'm not saying there's going to be a shortage due to miners, I'm saying that we don't really know what kind of performance we can really expect as to whether it's attractive or not. If there is an early stock shortage, I can say with utmost certainty that miners won't be to blame. A few months down the line, if it turns out the Vega is actually a solid mining card then we might see stock issues from it.
     
    Last edited: 2 Aug 2017
  6. LoadsaMoney

    Caporegime

    Joined: 8 Jul 2003

    Posts: 30,066

    Location: In a house

  7. Besty

    Mobster

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 3,931

  8. LoadsaMoney

    Caporegime

    Joined: 8 Jul 2003

    Posts: 30,066

    Location: In a house

    Yup :)
     
  9. beany_bot

    Mobster

    Joined: 19 Nov 2015

    Posts: 4,781

    Location: Glasgow Area

    Im so confused. Why on holy earth would you lay down money for a product (And it's accessories) that's not been reviewed yet? It could be absolute garbage?
     
  10. old gamer

    Mobster

    Joined: 6 Jan 2011

    Posts: 4,464

    Location: bristol

    if the reviews are bad just cancel, if not then all good
     
  11. beany_bot

    Mobster

    Joined: 19 Nov 2015

    Posts: 4,781

    Location: Glasgow Area

    But won't your item ship the day reviews start to come out? So you might be "stuck with it" Personally I would want at least a week of reviews before laying down cash.
     
  12. Gibbo

    Commissario

    Joined: 17 Oct 2002

    Posts: 34,422

    Location: OcUK HQ

    Seems the rumoured hash rate on VEGA is 70-100 per card, which is insanely good if true. :(

    Trying to devise some kind of plan so gamers can get them at MSRP without the miners wiping all the stock out within 5 minutes of product going live.
     
    Last edited: 4 Aug 2017
  13. ICDP

    Mobster

    Joined: 30 Dec 2011

    Posts: 3,226

    Location: Belfast

    Hi Gibbo,

    How about the same way you did the deal for the RX 580? Or limit on a one per person basis? Or both :)
     
  14. opethdisciple

    Capodecina

    Joined: 18 May 2010

    Posts: 21,391

    Location: London

    Will there be AIB cards up for preorder are are we just looking at the stock blower cards from AMD?
     
  15. Neutral

    Gangster

    Joined: 10 Jan 2013

    Posts: 141

    Location: London

    Stock works for me, I want to add a loop to my pc anyway
     
  16. DrBombcrater

    Hitman

    Joined: 18 Jan 2008

    Posts: 684

    Location: UK

    One per customer sounds like a good idea. In fact, a limit of one Vega card of any type per customer would be great. Not many people will be going Crossfire with these, since AMD have been clear xfire on Vega is not really recommended.
     
  17. Besty

    Mobster

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 3,931

    i think offering them to previous OCUK customers and forum members at 1 per customer should blot out most of the miners.

    i already know what the product is going to be like as we have already seen the founders editions. looking forward to getting my mits on an rx vega under water and running it up against my 1080ti :)
     
  18. opethdisciple

    Capodecina

    Joined: 18 May 2010

    Posts: 21,391

    Location: London

    The point is an FE card at £450. Good buy?
     
  19. JediFragger

    Caporegime

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 25,201

    Location: y0 Mommas ***

    Whoa :eek:
     
  20. Jazzerman

    Hitman

    Joined: 4 Jul 2009

    Posts: 763

    Source?
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.